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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a “blank check” in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu’s aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

  • TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn’t magically stop the genocide in Gaza???

    That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months???

    WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

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      I got banned from a community saying this as calmly as possible XD Idk i feel like theses tankies who were overwhelmingly hostile are either shills or hypocrits who just want to hurt the big bad capitalist, short and long term consequences be damned. (Tankies=/=Leftists just a reminder)

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      Well now that the election is lost, the Democrats could make true on their claim they would seriously end this, but had to wait until after the election…

      I doubt they will, because every of their action has shown to be equally strong genocide supporters. But we should see the next days, as Israel still doesnt let anywhere close to 350 Trucks into Gaza, leave alone any into the north of Gaza. The ultimatum is running out.

      Also as weapons deliverys to Israel have been and are illegal anyways under US law, now would be a great chance to get every Republican and Democrat who voted for them or approved them as part of the administration into jail and in front of a court.

      Oh wait, they wont because breaking the law, which unsurprisingly helped the convicted felon win, was worth it, so genocide could be further supportet.

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        2 months ago

        It’s not like the Republican house thwarted all of Biden’s efforts either

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          That is true. Which is why it doesn’t matter if the bombs given to Israel are red or blue.

          However now Democrats lost over genocide. Now AIPAC cannot play both parties anymore by making blind support for Israel the deciding factor. The Democrats lost because of Israel. Now they need to purge the Zionists and rebrand as the non genocide party, if they want to win moving on. This locks AIPAC in as being only in support of the Republicans, which limits their political influence.

          If it wasn’t for Harris/Biden loss, there was no hope for Palestinians, or any other people in West Asia in regards to US policy. Now there is a chance that one side of US policy will change.

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            I don’t think genocide is the only reason Kamala lost.

            They lost because they ran a shitty campaign. The only politician with lower polling numbers than Biden are Dick Cheney (a war criminal) and she embraced him, and then bragged about getting support from corporate CEOs.

            The campaign was moronic at best.

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    2 months ago

    Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

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    2 months ago

    What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat’s fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

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        They literally stood off to the side and allowed in the man who will facilitate the complete annihilation of Palestine, so in truth they really never gave a shit about Palestinians, it was all bullshit. With Harris you at least had someone reacted to criticism and you could work with but Trump doesn’t give a single fuck about criticism or what people want

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    Trump voters: “Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first”.

    Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

    Trump voters: Pikachu face

    Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

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      Nothing yet happened but you’re already crying like it did.

      Believe it or not, he’ll probably cut subsidies to Israel, get a peace deal in Ukraine (yeah, by giving his buddy Putin parts of the country), and he surely won’t start any war with iran.

      And all you’ll be able to do is continue fuming on the internet while being factually wrong. And in the end it won’t be a surprise to really anyone but you that your party will lose electrons over and over.

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      Good thing your party stuck to their guns and didn’t compromise on committing genocide. Then you wouldn’t be able to be smug about losing to a convicted rapist and felon.

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        You might find out soon what genocide actually looks like and then you can wipe those fake tears with your useless virtue signalling. Clown

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          Haha genocide is not some kind of spectrum, it’s the most horrific crime a person can commit. So no, I won’t. SeE ReAl GeNOciDe. I’M ALREADY SEEING IT. All from a party that thinks I’m stupid enough to believe they’re for justice and peace

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            2 months ago

            So outside of Dems learning a lesson which is now yesterdays news. Do you believe Palestinians are in a better place now Trumps is taking over?

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              I didn’t vote for Trump either. And it’s the Dems that blocked progressive candidates like Bernie from office.

              Do you think by telling voters like me to eat shit about Gaza that they’re better off than if they had actually intervened in Israel’s genocide?

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                No but it’s about end results and being savvy about applying what little influence you have and thinking a step ahead. Palestinians are going to be worse off now, Trump has stated before the election that Israel can do what it wants to get the job done. How do you think Trump would handle any ongoing protests at the university’s, etc. A man just itching to deploy troops to shoot protestors.

                You can blame the dems all you like but voting 3rd party or staying at home has assisted Trump back into power and brought in the loons with him that think war in the middle east will bring the rapture.

                He’s going to make American, Ukrainian and Palestinian lives far worse. But yeah I guess the dem leadership has learned a lesson now they are going back to their comfortable lives that most likely won’t be impacted by any of this.

                At least under the Dems you could have continued the protests, continued the pressure for peace.

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                  If you compromise on genocide then you are not a political agent, you’re a sheep that can be herded with enough pressure.

                  You keep using that triangulation bullshit because your party has been using it to goad their own base into voting for far right policies OE absolutely pathetic band aids.

                  We’re not falling for it anymore and we’re going to fight against genocide without your worthless party.

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    So the same thing as Biden?

    The war with Iran is already on the doorstep of happening under Bidens unconditional aid.

    Such a shame Kamala did not get elected. Who also promised unconditional aid and advocated for starting a war with Iran.

    Posts like this would have a lot more impact if the Democrats were different.

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    I heard the “but there won’t be any of these wars once Trump is back” argument several times.

    I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone’s stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.