- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
Everyday AI become more and more common, but can we say no?
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“No” - tech bros and republicans
these negative comments are missing the point. Soon we may not be able to buy a phone that doesnt have an integrated intrusive ai that scans all you files. Android has one, ios has one. Whats the alternative? using lineage os or some other android rom? having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms? most people cant say no to having a phone, so lets ensure these phones arent so intrusive. lets legislate something about this…
Fwiw I can use my banking apps and anything else on GrapheneOS. It’s been smooth sailing all the way.
Same here. I’ve been using Lineage since it was Cyanogenmod and I’ve never encountered banking or payment apps not working.
having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms?
btw, my bank recently announced that they’ll not let anyone login to the web bank from mobile phones. their justification is to “protect against hackers”, which is an obvious lie. this is the most popular bank in my country
Use desktop mode and spoof the user agent with an extension. I’m assuming you’re of average intelligence and already use Firefox.
I live in Denmark, their state identification app does not work if it detects that the Android ROM is not straight from Google. So when I switched to /e/OS I couldn’t access anything any more. So yeah, in my case the solution was ta give up on one pretty critical app.
Thankfully the solution was as easy as getting one of those old fashioned code chips, and everything else seems to be working fine (including banking apps from other countries). So now I’m rocking /e/OS and I’m pretty sure there is no way I’m ever going back to Google Android.
Do Magisk and the universal fix no longer help with masking your OS?
I think maybe it does, but I’m a pretty normal user who just used the Murena quick installer to get /e/OS. Reading up on Magisk after some web searches I quickly realized it was more than I could bite over without spending too much time trying to figure it all out. If people insist on making apps I can’t use I’ll just accept that I won’t be using them at this point. Their loss.
We can control AI just fine. We cannot control corporations, who use sloppy AI for important decisions. A few court cases for unfair hiring practices will solve the problem rather quickly, it won’t be AI who will get fined, it will be CEO.
To be clear, the article is about people who don’t wanna use AI and hes chois or not to do it in a personal level. No an impose to those who embrace AI. Is more like if a person can chose to say not to AI, or in words from the article “those who are left behind is widening and becoming a social barrier”.
this is all pretty comical to me because I remember the same articles being written about the internet in the 80s and '90s and here we are
This is not very similar. As the other poster said, unregulated AI is a corpos dream, and it will destroy us even worse than billionaires already have. Give it 10 years, if you don’t work manual labor you’ll be jobless
Let me know how you feel when you are starving to death from not having any money from AI taking away every possible way to earn a living that isn’t manual labor or shitty service jobs.
well we aren’t there now and while I do understand it’s going to change things, that’s what new technology does whether it’s power tools or automated robots building cars or now ai doing things in software that’s how things evolve with technology and we just figure out ways to continue to exist
Oh no, people are assaulting me with their different opinions!
No - you can’t say no. People have a right to use AI in their productions, and your opinion cannot force them to do otherwise.
As with anything - the moment your opinion starts to dictate other people’s lives, it becomes invalid.
So what counts as dictating my life?
The government prohibiting me from firing my gun in the air, or my neighbor’s falling bullets prohibiting me from leaving my porch?
I’m always suspect of those who assume there is only “freedom to do” and not also “freedom from being done-to”.
They tend to think they will never be on the receiving end of someone else’s “freedom”.
What if their use of AI affects me? Is my opinion invalid when my opinion is that you shouldnt be allowed to pollute a river that I depend on for accessing water? Have you thought about this for more than 2 seconds?
Have you thought about this for more than 2 seconds?
Have YOU? - Your example is clearly them violating the rights of others. This isn’t some paradox point of view or the “got ya!” moment that you think it is.
Your example is clearly them violating the rights of others.
Yes, and its my opinon that they shouldnt be allowed to do so. Not allowing people to do something does in fact dictate their lives, so my opinion should be invalid, no?
No, because you use the uppermost-bound of the statement. Your opinion doesn’t take precident as the opinion above it (polluting the river) already violates the rights of others. Your opinion literally is the same as mine. That the person polluting the river (their opinion being they can) - shouldn’t be able to use that opinion to affect others. You’re saying the same as I am, but focused on the wrong part.
Like with religion – You’re free to believe whatever you want to believe. That you’re not allowed to have abortions, etc.
But the moment YOUR belief, says that I can’t have an abortion, is when it becomes invalid, because it’s not MY belief. I don’t have to abide by YOUR belief/opinion on the matter. Your opinions don’t dictate my actions.
Now, you can control your actions - by, say - not buying from me. You control your actions, so while you can’t force companies not to AI, there’s nothing forcing you to buy from them when you are aware of its use. You can’t stop them from using it because you don’t like it though. Your opinion of it being good/bad, or if they can/should/shouldn’t use it matters absolutely none.
Re-read your post and try to pinpoint where you contradict yourself. If you are unable to do so, you could ask chat gpt for help.
Is that because you can’t pinpoint it yourself? There’s a reason that you can’t. It’s because no contradiction exists.
Lol
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
yep, you sure showed me. i suppose you could have written something like “i know you are, but what am i?” if you only ahd the wit to think of it in time
