cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/25749999

LONDON (AP) — Britain’s High Court ruled Friday that the government’s decision to outlaw the protest group Palestine Action as a terrorist organization was unlawful, but it kept the ban in place pending an appeal.

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    6 hours ago

    Well that was obvious from the start. By all means arrest people who commit crimes but calling those crimes terrorism was insanely stupid.

    It wasn’t even done any particularly sinister reason, it was just them being dumb. Terrorism charges obviously carries longer prison sentences, but that in no way benefited the government, so there was no reason for them to do that. They just came off looking bad at a time when they really needed their public image to improve. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating because every time a story like this comes out it makes labour look like the US republicans but they’re not. They’re just really really really really stupid.

    Starmer used to be a human rights lawyer, so I don’t understand how he’s so bad at his job.

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      I don’t understand how he’s so bad at his job

      Starmer got his PM job after a coordinated campaign by the rightwing press and Labour rightwingers to falsely claim that Jeremy Corbyn and his shadow government were antisemitic. As a consequence, Starmer is now hypersensitive to the damaging effects that a such claim of antisemitism could do to him, whether true or not. And policies that are not in open support of Likud’s genocide are at risk of such claims.

      TL;DR-- he’s maneuvered himself into a position where he’s in Netanyahu’s pocket. And he’s a coward.

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        It wasn’t just the smear campaign against Corbyn though. He did quite a lot of shooting himself in the foot as well, which really didn’t help matters.

        But really none of that should matter to Labour, the media are for the most part in the pockets of the right anyway so who cares what they say. Most Labour voters won’t read those papers anyway.

        What’s pissing off a lot of traditional Labour voters is all this fence sitting he is trying to do. People elected a liberal government, so obviously they are going to be expecting some liberal policies, that was what they voted for, that’s what they wanted. If they wanted someone to sit on the fence and ruminate about every possible decision the Liberal Democrats are right there. The reason that the Greens didn’t get a lot of votes this time around was because people didn’t want to split the vote, but if Labour are just going to be Tory Lite (although frankly not that lite) then who cares, we might as well risk it because otherwise we’ll end up with a right-wing government either way. It baffles me that no one in Labour HQ can see that.

        I honestly think that if labour just fall on lent into it, they would probably get way more votes than they currently do.

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    16 hours ago

    So, does this mean they free everyone they arrested, clear their records, and must make restitution?

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      “You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride”

      Or any of the numerous cascading consequences of being arrested and charged with a crime

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      If the appeal goes well, yes. Well, at least about freeing them. Records and restitution should be cleared/made but I doubt it’ll happen without a fight.

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      Context for the rest of the world:

      Chris Minns is the Premier of the state of NSW (Premier being the state equivalent of Prime Minister) in Australia. Earlier this week, on the invitation of the Prime Minister of the country, Israel’s President Herzog was in Sydney, NSW to commemorate the victims of last December’s Bondi mass shooting at a Hanukkah event. Never mind that he’s an Israeli political leader, not a Jewish religious leader who would have any business being there. And never mind that the shooter’s motivation had nothing to do with the state of Israel (it was an ISIS-inspired shooting, not a Palestinian one).

      Anyway, the event saw huge protests all over the country, especially in Sydney. And in Sydney, the police used some of the most brutal tactics we’ve seen in this country. “Kettling”, where one set of police give an order to disperse, while other police refuse to allow them to move that way, effectively forcing protestors into direct conflict with police. Three particularly bad videos emerged, showing (a) police assaulting Muslims who were down on their knees praying, (b) a bicycle officer who tried to attack a protestor in office clothing, but comically fell over his own bike and tripped, leading the protestor to at first try to reflexively catch the guy, before the officer started beating him up while the protestor raised his arms up in the sign of surrender. Then a bunch more officers came in with full on swinging punches. And © a protestor restrained on his belly, as the officer holding him repeatedly close-fist punched him in the neck and around the liver.

      At first the police were staunchly standing by the line that they followed all the necessary procedures, public safety, yada yada. The police have since announced that they will be conducting a review, but Minns, the Premier, has still refused to apologise.

      NSW premier won’t apologise to Muslims after police grab men praying at rally against Isaac Herzog

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        More context

        Basically he took over leadership of the state branch of the political party he represents because the former leader posted a message in support of the people of Palestine.

        His support for Zionism should disqualify him from being a leader in a nation other than Israel.

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        Hear hear. Sydney finally ousts the LNP after 12 years and they end up with a LNP religious-right Catholic in Labor clothes with Chris Minn. Its embarrassing, and its no wonder so many Aussies have trouble determining which party is more worthy of their vote.

        This post is from nearly two years ago and if it were updated it would have a wealth of new examples such as yours.

        I just hope the NSW voters learn that the best way to keep Labor honest is to vote Greens. Greens are such a small part of the vote that you’re unlikely to be voting in any new members (which would be ideal), but rather signalling your core issues as a voter. The Greens almost always share preferences with Labor as they do have loosely-aligned policy goals - and when the Greens vote share increases it signals to Labor that not only do they need to give stronger concessions to the Greens directly to earn their preference votes, but they really need to realign their policies further leftward to have a chance of retaining their power.

        Flip-flopping between LNP voting and Labor voting just tells the Labor party that they need to approach a more centrist stance on policies, which is sadly what has been happening for a long time.

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          I’ve been putting Greens first where possible for a while now, leaving Labor lower down to at least ensure that filth like One Nation don’t get a stronger foothold.

          I’m scared of the fact that the Harpy is still getting wrist slaps for being a racist cunt in parliament though. She needs to be evicted, fast.