Dyskolos

Why the attack? I’m against this. I might benefit from capitalism but i must not like it. And I do not. It’s a shitty pyramid-scheme resulting in exactly shit like this. Many brands (that i know of…) do not put physically already existing hardware behind a paywall. Yet. But in the end, they all will do, because people don’t care, or worse: don’t see the implications it does and just accept.

As said, i now drive a pre-enshittification-car with no such shit. Might they still exist somehow in the future.

Absolutely. But, as usual, we all let it happen, it will happen more, and in the end it’s the total default for everything. Capitalism always wins over ignorance or apathy.

Because, it’s already built into my car, i already paid for the car, the whole transaction is concluded. Paying in hindsight for a part of it, that is already there, is not really justified at all. If they built the car without one, and would have to add it later, then it would make sense. So if it would be more expensive to have my car explicitly built without this feature, why does it suddenly cost money when i decide i want it later?

The signal-broadcast all around everywhere and just YOU paying is simply for the fact they they can’t route them specifically to just YOUR house. It might sound equally unfair but it’s a clear distinction based on technical impossibility.

And that’s when I switched a while ago from a modern Bentley to an “ancient” mechanical car from a past long forgotten. Every electrical gadget is local, and it just has android auto (dedicated isolated phone just for the car) with a fake google account for navigation. Everyone thinks we’re broke lol, but I’m so fed with this shit. Even a silly backlight went from 5 bucks for a replacement-bulb to 1500 bucks for the whole led-package. Parts alone, add the mechanic and the many hours needed.

Heard that all brands do this shit though. Like even disabling things remotely that are there but you didn’t subscribe to. This is bonkers.

I only have one fake google account on an isolated VM with dedicated VPN. For the rare cases it’s unavoidable for something. Whoever actually uses gmail, will get what they pay for.

But this is probably anti-AI-ragebait anyway.

Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.

I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they’d even use those phones at all. I wouldn’t.

Fair points. But “just” surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn’t be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I’m worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.

Just seems weird that it’s pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it’s back on the table.

While he’s technically not wrong, i hate the world and where it will continue to go to.

Illogical? Chat is not just about sms-style dumb texts. It’s images and videos. Trillions of freshly taken photographs. Those are tremendously valuable. And even if it’d be just text, it’s natural training on people. But it’s also video calls, another incredibly valuable thing.

And sure, the EU has no AI to offer, hence I said “some ai billionaire” or anyone or lobby that wants that shit being pushed hard.

But as it is just a thought of a possibility I might totally be wrong. As if peasants like us would ever be allowed to know.

I had multiple possible reasons. Total surveillance is enough already, the recent aggressive pushing hints towards another added goal.

You’re free to offer YOUR insight. I don’t even hate AI. I like it.

I would bet my right nut on the real reason for all this is some AI-billionaire who aggressively pushes this with moneyz. Having every fart we make soon be analyzed by AI is the best “natural” training there could be.

As a cherry on top is the total surveillance for the state(s). AI will probably do a decent job (despite what the article says) in scanning for potential “threats” to let actual people check.

But I can’t even comprehend the power that would be needed to actually scan every shit by every person every minute. No data center in the world has this oomph. So it has to be a simple keyword-search (in all possible languages, even leetspeek and co?) To forward to ai. And if ai would just report 0.5% as “suspicious” for manual human control, it would be more supermassive than a black hole. This is just not doable and hence defeats it’s fake reason: protecting the kids.

So that kinda just leaves ai-training and selective easy surveillances without court-orders. Which also won’t protect kids. As every criminal out there will find a loophole.

It is the point. It should be a won war not just a won battle. And I, personally, am already preparing for the final loss. Which is inevitable IMHO.

Dude. It’s the USA. Those people will simply starve then. Problem solves itself. Like magic, but without work!

Guessing you either didn’t actually have a real HDR monitor, or just didn’t realise it shouldn’t look like what it did.

Yeah, me being technologically challenged is probably it. Dude, I retired around 25 because of tech. Besides, if you ever toggled HDR while having 5 monitors attached, you’d think hard if it would be REALLY needed right now 😁

On device or in cloud, you have privacy settings that control it.

Sorry, I just don’t have that level of naiveté. A US-company pumping billions into AI and not use our data for anything? That is why they already gather that much, even without LLMs? Half of my firewall-rules are for MS, so little do they phone home 😁

But at least only one windows machine will be problematic, my others are win-server, they won’t get this crap. So no worries for me anyway.

Stop whining about censorship, stop using media that is controlled by so few people. It’s that simple.

It’s like putting my hand in a crocs mouth and trusting it to not bite.

Seriously? Because not everything supports HDR lol

I never switched it off and never had problems in any content. Weird 😊

If you know the keyboard shortcut, sure. With a mouse how do you do it in a second while you’re in a game?

It’d be not the wisest move to toggle it while in a game. And maybe I’d need two seconds, possibly even three or four. A worthy price for privacy in my book

Great! So there we have it, you recognise that you were wrong. We got there in the end, hooray!

Nonsense. I said from the beginning there are niche-usecases. Those don’t invalidate all arguments per se

MS" don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

And here’s where you’re seriously wrong. It might be local only for simple things like file-search (doesn’t mean your voice-data isn’t sent for “performance and quality assurance” reasons). Most stuff is or will, obviously, be cloud-based. They wouldn’t put billions into that just so that regular Joe from accounting can open office faster. They do it for profit

“MS” don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

Yeah sure. Some features are local only. IF you have a compatible NPU in your machine. If not then it’ll be cloud too. The data on what is local only is freely accessible.

AI can already interact with third party products

Some ai with some 3rd party products. Surely never all with everything. Also we’re talking about copilot only.

1. Why should i toggle hdr off?
2. Takes a second to do with a mouse or keyboard

As to the other example: Sure, useful. To people who just don’t care about privacy (Which is kinda weird from someone with the nick “freedomadvocate”). As MS should not have access to my mails, my calender or my to-do-list. And especially not my contacts :-) Besides you’re just assuming one would exclusively use MS-products to do that. Try that shit with non-ms-products and it becomes just a waste of time.

But for people unable to do so “normally” or who would save tremendous amounts of time there might be a good use. But that’s what i said at the start. Very niche use-case.

You are incredible…if you see a worthy value to sacrifice privacy to do “all os-stuff by voice”, then go for it. Even if it’d be a local LLM I couldn’t think of one single scenario where this might be remotely handy. Can you? Or are you just antagonizing out of boredom?

lol, if you’d knew how my “dark-age” houses look…embrace more of these “innovations” and get some alexas and rings! It’s the pinnacle of tech. Besides copilot, obviously :)

You’re becoming boring. If you so love being a product just so you can speak to your windows to do all the things you “manually” would need too long to do: Go ahead. If you see progress here and awesome innovation: Be my guest. Don’t forget to install the chatgpt-browser too :)