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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

US-supplied HIMARS 'completely ineffective' against superior Russian jamming technology, report says

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US-supplied HIMARS 'completely ineffective' against superior Russian jamming technology, report says

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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Russian jamming can cause the HIMAR missiles to miss targets by 50ft or more, The Washington Post reported.
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  • theluddite@lemmy.ml
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    US Leads World in Credulous Reports of ‘Lagging Behind’ Russia. The American military, its allies, and the various think-tanks it funds, either directly or indirectly, generate these reports to justify forever increasing the military budget.

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      These two things aren’t mutually exclusive however. US war industry is always looking for ways to justify higher spending, but it’s pretty clear that the quality of weapons it produces is incredibly poor as well.

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        Very well could be. At this point, I’m so suspicious of all these reports. It feels like trying to figure out what’s happening inside a company while relying only on their ads and PR communications: The only thing that I do know for sure is that everyone involved wants more money and is full of shit.

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          Right, which is not an environment conductive to producing anything of quality. The MIC is basically a giant embezzlement machine at this point.

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        The US has truly been grifted by the “defense” industry for decades now. A lot of snake oil with no testing in real battle conditions

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        it’s pretty clear that the quality of weapons it produces is incredibly poor as well.

        https://theaviationgeekclub.com/iriaf-commander-reportedly-fired-after-he-kept-secret-that-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace/

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          S300 is an ancient system. Show me where F35 is operating anywhere close to S400 deployments.

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            Ah yes, the S400, or “S300 with a new software patch”. Since you like Business Insider, try this: https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-s-400-formidable-not-quite-up-to-the-hype-2024-5

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              well let’s just see those f35 take on it then

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    Starlink is the weak link here. The US military have access to their own satellite network but obviously won’t share that with Ukraine, hence the relative ease of jamming in this case. Russian tech being able to jam civilian satellites isn’t noteworthy.

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      Please do provide sources that Starklink is used for targeting weapons. I’d love to see those. Last I saw, it’s widely admitted now that western “contractors” are responsible for operating western guided weapons, meaning that they are using US satellite network. Also, not sure why you’d think that if Starlink can be jammed, then US military satellites wouldn’t be jammed the same way.

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        Please do provide sources that Starklink is used for targeting weapons.

        Are you serious? Did you not read the article you yourself posted, or just saw the “Murica bad” headline and rolled with it?

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          If you work on your reading comprehension, you’ll see that nowhere does it say that Starlink is used for targeting. It’s used for communication and that’s being disrupted along with targeting systems which have fuck all to do with Starlink.

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    Are there missiles that aren’t susceptible to jamming? I was expecting ballistic missiles to be used for this purpose. To reduce heat signature tracking I thought that they’d throw off the projectile system after acquiring height and direction. But I don’t know if they can be picked up by some form of active scan.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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      I imagine that any missile that has to hit a target precisely over a long distance needs to be able to do course corrections to account for stuff like air drag and turbulence.

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      Why was this removed?

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