Passenger forced to run along London platform with hand trapped in doors of moving train
www.theguardian.com
Investigation launched after late-night ‘trap and drag’ incident on Elizabeth line in which man was freed by staff

Summary

A passenger on London’s Elizabeth line was forced to run several meters along a platform at Ealing Broadway station after his hand became trapped in the closing doors of a departing train on 24 November.

Railway staff intervened to pull him away, and the train stopped after moving 17 meters. The passenger sustained minor injuries.

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) is investigating the incident, part of a series of similar “trap and drag” cases, to improve safety measures.

Transport for London and the operator, MTR, are cooperating fully.

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    3 days ago

    I feel like there are massive, unsolvable problems with this idea (besides the considerable cost):

    • The Elizabeth line already has a very small space for passengers to wait. Thus, you’re severely restricting the amount of available space even if the turnstiles end up quite close to the train, because in your idea, the area beyond the turnstiles shouldn’t be occupied until the train is deboarding/boarding.
    • The turnstiles would substantially limit throughput solely to prevent this extreme fluke situation. Trains’ efficiency lives and dies on their boarding and deboarding times, and this means that both people boarding and deboarding need to go through a turnstile (at best, the people boarding need to).
    • If you have the turnstiles too close to the train (which there’s a lot of opportunity for in such an enclosed space and assuming you want to maximize the passenger waiting area), then you’re encouraging people to hop the turnstiles to catch their train, which could actually be substantially more dangerous through risk of fall, especially if part of your body falls under the train as it’s departing (“mind the gap”).
    • FelixCress@lemmy.worldEnglish
      62·
      2 days ago

      Yeah, completely unsolvable apart from the fact these have been solved in other countries 🙄 - not with turnstiles but with the additional doors which line up with train doors.

      It’s the usual British “it won’t work” without even trying to explore what other nations (just accros the channel) implemented.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      32·
      2 days ago

      The Elizabeth line already has a very small space for passengers to wait.

      You’d need some amount of more platform space than you would with the present system, true enough.

      the area beyond the turnstiles shouldn’t be occupied until the train is deboarding/boarding.

      It could be occupied prior to that. The limit would be the departure of the previous train.

      hop the turnstiles

      I’m thinking of the security turnstiles that you can’t hop. They look like this sort of thing: