cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/114611927184686873
Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)
https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
------>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.
>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…
#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe
You made a lot of statements and a lot of questions at once, so I’ll try to split them up.
Agreed
Disagree?
Agreed, the coastal waters off the coast of Israel are different than the dry land in Gaza
I’m sorry?
Yes, people were smuggling goods through the internationally recognized waters administered by Israel. When the IDF boarded the ship to stop the smuggling they were attacked by a group of the passengers. While unfortunate, it was legal to defend themselves. I will say that the IDF should have done more to prevent the escalation to the point that people didn’t get killed, but that would likely have required an even larger show of force.
This is an article by Amnesty International? I’ll take the UN Panel’s report which stated ““The fundamental principle of the freedom of navigation on the high seas is subject to only certain limited exceptions under international law. Israel faces a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza. The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.””
Not really a good answer. Interestingly the Palmer report does say specifically where in the Israeli report they document the connection to Hamas, but for the life of me I cannot find the actual report. If anyone finds it I’d be curious to read it.
Justifying murder very cool. The law say to only use enough force necessary. Murdering with live ammunition is not
The loss of life and injuries resulting from the use of force by Israeli forces
during the take-over of the Mavi Marmara was unacceptable. Nine passengers were
killed and many others seriously wounded by Israeli forces. No satisfactory
explanation has been provided to the Panel by Israel for any of the nine deaths.
Forensic evidence showing that most of the deceased were shot multiple times,
including in the back, or at close range has not been adequately accounted for in the
material presented by Israel.
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/720841?ln=en&v=pdf
https://news.un.org/en/story/2010/09/352342
It’s interesting you used that quote because I also used it in another response. The difference is that you failed to note that the report activists took the weapons of the IDF and shot 2 of the soldiers and 7 other soldiers were injured. In case you want to read it yourself, that would be item 124 on page 57.
Interestingly I have found this report by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center which includes very detailed accounts of the attack including photos and soldier statements. I’m not going to reference or use anything from here because I assume most people will disregard it because it comes from an Israeli source. Either way, you should still check it out.
You failed to note that it was unacceptable for the idf to murder activists you can stop someone with one bullet, but decided shot pwople multiple time
Wow you are also using meir amit an israeli organization funded by israel terrorist government. You are exposing yourself here
You really are a caricature aren’t you?
It’s not simply an israeli source. It’s a shady source financed by the terrorist state of israel
So because it is funded by the Israeli government it can’t be used? Did you actually look at the report? It includes pictures of the “activists” beating the soldiers as the rappel onto the ship, photos from Turkish Journalist Sefik Dinç, youtube videos uploaded by the “activists”, and pictures from the “activists” of the soldiers bleeding from their heads while the “activists” smile and hold them in place.
I mean, I’m all for calling out propaganda and looking at where information is coming from (that’s like 90% of what I do here), but when one side has pictures and videos that the other side provided I’m a bit inclined to believe them. I put a lot of skepticism in the interviews included in the report, but when the IDF says they were attacked by the “activists”, they provide pictures and videos taken by the “activists” attacking the soldiers, the Turkish government says that the “activists” attacked the soldiers, and the UN Panel that investigated it says that the “activists” attacked the soldiers… I don’t know, maybe it’s true and not just IDF propaganda?
Yes, no army and government ever lied more than the idf and israeli governments
Ok, I’m done with you. You’re either deliberately stupid or actually so. You seem to have no ability to engage in rationale debate and your ability to source and cite information is on a high school level. Go back to your echo chamber and enjoy the sound of your own voice.
No I didn’t? Why would I need to note it again when you literally just said it and then I said I had used the same quote? That is by definition noting it.
You never said that the panel said that Israel response was unacceptable. You are disingenuous
Here it is if you don’t believe me.. I referenced the quote 2 hours ago and in my post to you said I referenced it. You’re being obtuse.