• Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    People use religions to commit hate, murder, and genocide. Both islam and judiaism do this regularly. All other religions do as well.

    Not all religious people are extremists, but they do support extremist hate religions.

    “But I don’t support the hate parts of my religion that are clearly printed in my holy hate book”. Yeah, right. Fuck religions and those that support them.

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      2 days ago

      What a load of bigoted bullshit.

      There is about 2 billion Christians in the world and 1.8 billion Muslims. If they were to “support extremist hate” like you describe it, we would be at a global war that would dwarf any war before it.

      Meanwhile people who are outspoken Anti-theists, often support the most vile supremacism, combining their belief of intellectual supremacism with beliefs of racial, cultural, ableist or other ideas of supremacism and subsequently justify bigoted violence including genocide. This also holds true for Zionism that for its longest time was a secular movement that faced heavy criticism by religious Jews and took a long time to create its warped understanding of Judaism in service of its imperialist ideology.

      Of course it is convenient to blame imperialist violence on religion so as to distract from the imperialist and racist violence in your own ideology. This is also why some of the staunchest anti-theists are big supporters of US Fascism under Trump, willing to work together with the Evangelicals as the main goal is Fascism.

      • minibyte@sh.itjust.works
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        Anti-theists, often support the most vile supremacism

        Wrong. Meanwhile “Yahweh was an ancient Semitic deity of weather and war”. The flaws we see in others are often the flaws we see in ourselves.

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        2 days ago

        Okay Jesus Christ dude you didn’t have to just do the same fallacies in the other direction… What edgy atheist hurt you?

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          Unlike the comment i replied to, i do distinguish between the people who are aggressive about their anti-theism and atheists/anti-theists in general.

          Blaming the violence that resulted from centuries of colonial oppression and the resistance against it on religion is a pretty tired trope that is intellectually lazy and deeply ingrained in overt and subtle beliefs of Supremacism in “Liberal” countries.

          There is no doubt that the majority of Jews, Christians, Muslims and people of other faiths are just normal people, not holding more hate and not being more prone to violence than other communities. Calling them all " do support extremist hate religions" or referring to scriptures as “holy hate book” is lacking any differentiation.