cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/43954112
China ended the first half of 2025 with a record trade surplus of about US$586 billion
Exports rose 5.8 per cent in June from a year earlier to US$325 billion
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/43954112
China ended the first half of 2025 with a record trade surplus of about US$586 billion
Exports rose 5.8 per cent in June from a year earlier to US$325 billion
Y’all on .world love to point instances as if it’s the be all end all.
I really fucking hate this style of argumentation so let me handle this now.
This is called a genetic fallacy and it’s utilized to invalidate an argument without actually engaging in the substance of that argument like you haven’t. If you can’t support your opinion don’t argue, don’t offer comment, just block me, down vote, and move on because otherwise I’m going to call you out on using a fallacy to completely sidestep the very valid points I made. I’m going to point out how you didn’t engage with any substance of anything I had to say such as the United States being a much worse stabilizing Force than China.
Here why don’t you support your statement that China is raping Africa worse than the United States has exploited the entirety of the global South including Africa.
China is being a massive bully to the Philippines. That fucking sucks. They shouldn’t really do that. You know who else is a massive bully, the United States. Should we point out all of the countries the United States abuses through sanctions and the mif?
I didn’t say China was sunshine and rainbows I only said that there are more stabilizing influence on the world than the United States is and I have plenty of History of the United States fucking things up far far worse than China ever dreamed of doing.
Your on .world so I don’t actually expect you to engage with the substantive aspects of my argument instead I expect you to fall into ad hominem attacks and more genetic fallacies.
So would you like to continue a conversation by providing some facts to back up your claims or am I just going to sit here and rake you over the coals for acting like a fool and offering an opinion without any substantive argument?
https://www.cna.org/our-media/indepth/2024/03/china-loans-to-africa
It takes 2 seconds to research that china is using Africa as a debt trap with loans that are designed to trap nations.
Tankies gonna tank I guess…
Couldn’t at least find an impartial source?
This is a bit like linking the Chinese government official website about the problems with the US.
Edit:
Regardless thank you for linking a source. I’ll look into this and see what I can learn from it.
CNA is a nonprofit the name isn’t directly associated with the us gov. They get funding from the gov just like a ton of nonprofits do but this doesn’t make them propaganda.
Yeah and radio free Asia is completely unbiased against China.
To even remotely suggest that china is some sort of victim is hilarious, but ml gonna do tankie shit.
Seriously, the USA has its issues, but prior to trump, world stability was something that the USA was known for, because it projected our soft power via backing the USD. It’s why the world is quite pissed that the turnip is being a fucking idiot. China is not that way at all. They want to conquer countries, only reason they haven’t is because their land neighbors have nukes and they have a shit navy that’s crap for invasions.
I mean China can absolutely be a victim of US foreign policy and still be an aggressor to other parts of the world.
Is your understanding of foreign policy really so limited?
You know something that China doesn’t do that the United States does? Periodically bomb Sovereign states For no reason.
Definitely inspiring stability throughout the Middle East and Latin America.
They’re a victim of what? Exploiting their citizens? Stealing IP from other nations?
No I’m just not a CCP bootlicker who thinks that China/russia/NK is better and more free than the USA is.
Because they can’t… it’s why they’re supplying russia with shit in Ukraine.
The middle east is and always has been a mess. Russia tried it before the USA did and china hasn’t been a world power long enough to give it a go. We should have never be involved with the middle east, but you’re defending china like they’re victims of big bad westernism. The difference between you and I is I don’t use whataboutism to defend nations that do fucked up shit.
I mean these answers are peak.
None of its correct but I think this is a wonderful example of NATO bullshitism.
Imagine talking so much shit about foreign policy not knowing about all of the US sanctions and tariffs that are put on China so that they are put at a disadvantage compared to the US economy.
This is literally written down in both the Biden administrations foreign policy and in Trump admin foreign policy. It’s literally why the US lost a trillion dollars in the economy when deepseek dropped. It’s why the US doesn’t have BYD Chinese cars even though they’re objectively better than anything in the West.
Oh and I love the bit that China’s exploiting their citizens when the United States it’s supposedly one of the richest countries in the world yet we can’t afford Universal Health Care or Universal education both which China has. Apparently Chinese citizens also have a right to shelter and a place to call home. In the US you’re free to die if you can’t afford anything. We have had people literally die from rationing insulin which was supposed to be a medication in the public domain. When Chinese citizens and Americans started connecting on red note Chinese people literally couldn’t believe what they were hearing about the American Medical system. They thought it was Chinese propaganda. they struggle to believe that Americans would just accept those Health costs and encouraged us to revolt. That is how fucked the US citizen is.
And your lack of knowledge about why the Middle East is such a cluster fuck is so apparent. Someone doesn’t know what the US was up to in the 70s.
It’s also really fun to watch you accuse me of whataboutism and then use the fallacy yourself to try and defend the US actions in the middle east using the USSR as an example.
I love the implication that you think China can’t produce enough Munitions to compete with the US. It’s incredibly cute of you to underestimate the Chinese economy.
I’m not defending China. I’m comparing it to the US. I wonder why that’s so offensive.
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Well you did exactly as I predicted in my final comment.
Great job continuing to use a genetic fallacy and I appreciate the ad hominem attack you added on the end.
Especially like how you backed up none of your arguments except with a “trust me bro”
You are the perfect representation of the average .world user.
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Fuck yeah! Fuck them up Dastanktal!!