“Is this the America we live in?” said one parent. “And it was this stupid, stupid technology that is just going through picking up random words and not looking at context.”
They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?
The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.
Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.
I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.
I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.
In theory. Realistically it’s also about what you’re shot with and where. A robust man shot in the gut with a standard .22 that doesn’t ricochet or hit anything immediately vital probably isn’t even going to ICU after the bullet is fished out. 9mm changes the odds on everything. Again though, 1 bullet to the gut may not be an ICU scenario after surgery, depending. An AK/AR though, why are they even legal for civilians?
A child, with any bullet, I don’t like to think about it.
To the gut? It doesn’t matter what the round is. You’re going to the ICU. A .22 isn’t as non-lethal as the memes like to make it out to be, and your gut is a bunch of very critical soft tissue.
If it’s to the arm or something, fine. Anywhere in the torso, you’re going to the ICU most likely.
It’s not all or nothing. Each case is individual. Sometimes the bullet is intact and sometimes it’s in pieces. Sometimes trauma repairs minor injuries to the intestine, pulls the bullet, and they go to a post surgical floor like any other GI surgery. Sometimes trauma pops the spleen and the bullet and the patient still goes to med/surg. It depends on what a bullet hits and how, and how it lands is ruled by chaos and statistics. Sometimes it doesn’t puncture an artery but lodges next to it creating a future potential aneurysm that is monitored in ICU for 24h and then they’re off to med/surg, and the potential aneurysm goes on “continue to monitor” mode outpatient.
In reality, a person ignoring diverticulitis (then perfing) can sometimes spend more time in ICU than a bullet wound. And sometimes the bullet kills outright. It’s so variable. But that’s adults. Tiny bodies have far worse odds on any hit.
I’m not making light. I’m emphasizing how chaotic it is.
They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?
The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.
Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.
I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.
I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.
I guess that the hospital is one of the better places to get shot.
In theory. Realistically it’s also about what you’re shot with and where. A robust man shot in the gut with a standard .22 that doesn’t ricochet or hit anything immediately vital probably isn’t even going to ICU after the bullet is fished out. 9mm changes the odds on everything. Again though, 1 bullet to the gut may not be an ICU scenario after surgery, depending. An AK/AR though, why are they even legal for civilians?
A child, with any bullet, I don’t like to think about it.
To the gut? It doesn’t matter what the round is. You’re going to the ICU. A .22 isn’t as non-lethal as the memes like to make it out to be, and your gut is a bunch of very critical soft tissue.
If it’s to the arm or something, fine. Anywhere in the torso, you’re going to the ICU most likely.
It’s not all or nothing. Each case is individual. Sometimes the bullet is intact and sometimes it’s in pieces. Sometimes trauma repairs minor injuries to the intestine, pulls the bullet, and they go to a post surgical floor like any other GI surgery. Sometimes trauma pops the spleen and the bullet and the patient still goes to med/surg. It depends on what a bullet hits and how, and how it lands is ruled by chaos and statistics. Sometimes it doesn’t puncture an artery but lodges next to it creating a future potential aneurysm that is monitored in ICU for 24h and then they’re off to med/surg, and the potential aneurysm goes on “continue to monitor” mode outpatient.
In reality, a person ignoring diverticulitis (then perfing) can sometimes spend more time in ICU than a bullet wound. And sometimes the bullet kills outright. It’s so variable. But that’s adults. Tiny bodies have far worse odds on any hit.
I’m not making light. I’m emphasizing how chaotic it is.