The answer is likely a de-googled phone. We have some aftermarket variants of Android available. Though installing a new operating system on a phone isn’t very mainstream. And skipping the Play services comes with consequences. Push notifications sometimes won’t work, some apps outright refuse to work, and things like contactless payment are impossible. I’ve lived without Play services for a few years. Now I have them sandboxed in GrapheneOS. I wonder what they’re going to do to address this.
Even with Play Services enabled on GrapheneOS through Sandboxed Google Play, this wouldn’t affect it, as this would be a system-level change that only affects stock Android and OEM-modified variants of Android that are “Certified Android”
GrapheneOS would not have to put much, if any effort into blocking this.
I’m pretty sure Google locks us out and Google Pay is impossible, despite the operating system being more secure, having hardware attestation and not even being rooted.
The answer is likely a de-googled phone. We have some aftermarket variants of Android available. Though installing a new operating system on a phone isn’t very mainstream. And skipping the Play services comes with consequences. Push notifications sometimes won’t work, some apps outright refuse to work, and things like contactless payment are impossible. I’ve lived without Play services for a few years. Now I have them sandboxed in GrapheneOS. I wonder what they’re going to do to address this.
Even with Play Services enabled on GrapheneOS through Sandboxed Google Play, this wouldn’t affect it, as this would be a system-level change that only affects stock Android and OEM-modified variants of Android that are “Certified Android”
GrapheneOS would not have to put much, if any effort into blocking this.
It can still affect other OSs, though not directly but by killing off open source projects
With any luck, this will just clarify the divide between OSS and the garbage on the Play store.
Does contactless pay work in the sandbox? What about ticket apps like mlb ballpark?
I’m pretty sure Google locks us out and Google Pay is impossible, despite the operating system being more secure, having hardware attestation and not even being rooted.
Ticket and banking apps sometimes work, sometimes they don’t. They’re doing their best and a lot of things are fine. There’s a community maintained list for banking apps here: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/