In the bottom notes, they link to their Quantifying the cost of RTO, which is a worthwhile read too, with visualized numbers.
One candidate we placed in the past told us they wanted $90k. We advised them not to say that number, because it’d get them filtered out. They ended up getting hired for close to 200.
Crazy
Everything about the hiring process is so dog and pony and continues with the whole company culture thing.
It’d be nice if their experience shopping lists weren’t hilarious. No, I don’t have experience with every automation tool under the sun (or whatever). I’ve tried a few and worked extensively with them as they’re a tool to get the job done. I’m not running a tool review podcast, I’ve got shit to do. I’m sure I can learn to use whatever tool you’re using just fine but I’m not going to spend time trialling everything on the market just in case when that time could be used to get results with the tools I have. Holy run-on sentence, Batman.
Had that recently with job scheduling tools. They used two and I had a good amount of experience with one which is the one they use more but specific experience with the other was apparently vital. Again we are talking job scheduling tools and there was a laundry list of other technical requirements I met. I don’t think those who were hiring even understood the relative complexity of the technologies.
Ah, the thing you’re missing that the hiring people understand is that by learning one you are now unable to learn another. I assume that in situations where both are needed genetic engineering is involved.
I keep getting calls from recruiters that see my previous experience and think I’d be a great fit for x role. Then we talk. They want someone who can run helpdesk, IT engineering, AND be an “above average” programmer in whatever language they decide on.
This has happened to me at least a half dozen times in the past year.
The last guy I talked to told me he has been trying to get the company he’s representing to understand that anyone with the qualifications they’re asking for is going to just be a software engineer, not an IT Systems Engineer or Admin. And he’s dead right. But he said they won’t budge and they want their goddamned underpaid unicorn.
Just imagine working in that position. They’ll give you some massive, unrefined programming problem on day one and tell you to work on that when no users or hardware need help.
Three months later, they start asking why the massive, unrefined programming problem isn’t solved yet, when you had practically no time to work on it, because they probably should’ve hired a person each for helpdesk and IT.
That’s basically what my job currently is except I’m not a programmer, so I always get shit on, which is why I’ve been trying to find another one. The last thing I want to do is jump into another idiotic startup with unrealistic expectations.
Interesting recruiting company. Are these common in Silicon Valley?
That is (one of the) reason(s) why I don’t even consider job offers from a startup.
I have no desire to work under a megalomaniac who thinks he runs Google when he actually has 2 employees.
Oh boy another Anti-startup bigot. I do agree with the rest of your statement though
Why bigot? If you agree that startups suck, why would that make me a bigot?
Startups are ok if it’s your first job and you have no other choice or if you own them (or at least a significant share of it). In any other case it’s a ton of work in a volatile environment without any safeguards against abuse for very little pay.
The hate towards startups. With this attitude how is an honest innovator supposed to survive, when you lot are busy demonizing them.
Notice I didn’t say anything about trash startups. Youtube & Canonical were startups too you know.
To be honest? I don’t care how an honest innovator is supposed to survive. It’s not my responsibility to risk my sanity and my financial stability for someone else’s dream.
I spent long enough in a crappy startup. Not doing that again.
Also, it’s not exactly fair to lump youtube in with the average startup that any random person will work in. Youtube was created by three super rich ex-Paypalers and within a year it was big enough to be sold for €1.3 billion. It was basically founded as a mega corporation, including everything that a huge corporation requires (structures, HR, good salaries and so on).
Can’t find anything on canonical’s history.
While Youtube was technically classified as a startup, it’s a far cry from the average 5 person startup that you’ll usually find when talking about startups.
Well in that case enjoy your guilded cage
I have the choice between a guilded one and a shit one. It’s a cage either way, but at least in the guilded one nobody shouts at me unpunished.
As a not the best engineer who is looking for a job I heartily agree
