I have win 11. I only use it as a steam game machine and sometimes vr games.
If I’m ever required to reformat I’ll probably try IoT Enterprise LTSC. Unsure how video game friendly the version is though.
IoT Enterprise works just fine. That said, I still don’t trust Microsoft - it still insists on forced updates and reboots, and likely AI, down the line.
I am figuring on switching to SteamOS Desktop, once that is released.
Just go SteamOS or Bazzite. Make shit easy on yourself.
I’m one of the few whose laptop is about 10 years old so it needs replacing. Most likely a new laptop will be preloaded with windows 11. Do they sell laptops pre-loaded with Linux?
You can get a laptop with no OS preinstalled just about everywhere.
Depending on your budget, there’s the Framework laptops.
Edit: I want to add… What I did, was go to an opshop, get a laptop there, and wipe it for Linux. I got a decent laptop at a decent price, saved a little on ewaste for the world, helped a local opshop make a little money, and not contributed to any corpo greed.
Installing linux yourself is dead easy. I would just buy a Windows laptop and wipe the drive
I don’t want Microsoft to have the win of selling even 1 license.
Buy refurb then, it’s what I did and it’s super fast. Returns are diminishing these days and your money will go further.
There are some companies that sell hardware with Linux pre-installed. The bigger companies that do are Dell and Lenovo. Maybe some others I am not aware of. If you want to support a smaller company that also sells Linux preinstalled, you should look into System76 and Framework. I would not be surprised if there are others as well.
If you are feeling up to it, I think it’s a great idea to watch some videos regarding installing a Linux distribution on your own and doing it that way. It isn’t very difficult (You may have to adjust some BIOS settings for example) and many distributions guide you in keeping a windows install and Linux install at the same time dual boot style if you want a back up Windows install. It will be a good first step in learning a little about how Linux works so you can figure out any issues more easily if they happen to come up.
I switched to Linux primarily last year, and other than some distro hopping to find my right fit, I haven’t looked back and I don’t plan on it.
- Worse drivers.
- More bloat.
- More “telemetry” (spyware and adware).
- It breaks a ton of the systems I’ve had to implement by sheer force.
Why the FUCK would I do that? Just to give microsoft more money? Go and FUCK yourself.
Don’t forget AI shoved down your throat that takes goddamn screen captures without any care of what sensitive infor,ation may be displayed and processes it to reme,bet everything your do. It’s goddamn 1984.
Microsoft also works with American intelligence, like other corporations. They won’t even fix zero day exploits without first letting the NSA know in advance. Telecoms have black rooms whose entire purpose is to siphon data directly to the authorities, Microsoft probably has a whole building.
I mean, it’s windows 10, but worse
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If you have 8gb or less of RAM, it’s constantly swapping and trash your SSD
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It always needs to automatically install the fucking updates in the background hogging the CPU and SSD time when you actually need to work/play
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When they introduce bugs, they take years to fix them. The taskbar took 3 years to be restored to features that were present since windows 95. One year ago they introduced a new bug that with some display port monitors, when it goes in standby, the resolution switches for a second to 640*480, trashing all windows and desktop layout, super infuriating. Probably this will be fixed in windows 12
Plus with all their decision to force people to trash millions of perfectly working computers… I know many they just give up on personal computers and just use phones/tablet as it’s enough for them
The updates are off the fucking charts. Constantly updating/breaking services and apps are useless literally until you reboot. They really took the “reboot will fix it” and ran as far as they could go.
Four updates (and consequent reboots) in one week. Wtf
Imagine having to tell hundreds of clients you have to reboot your computer at least once a week for it to work. Fucking pathetic.
I don’t have to imagine. I literally do this. Is pathetic. I’m over here with my fully update Linux box that I hadn’t had to reboot in months, telling windows users to reboot “at least once a week” and that “shutdown is not the same as reboot”.
Android phones are picking up this reboot trend also… 😐
Google Android, maybe. AOSP ROM, not so much.
I’m grateful. It was the push I needed to stop using windows.
If they’d made it even vaguely tempting I probably wouldn’t have bothered.
It’s the new Windows 8.
At least we could skip w8
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Time to upgrade to Linux.
Cool site! Didn’t know it existed, and I was pleased to see that there are people out there willing to “fingers on the keyboard” assist those who want to switch but don’t know how.
Mandatory secure boot is the thing. Before I get a new motherboard and CPU I’ll just get Linux. Gaming works great there, and those 3 things I actually need Microsoft for can be used in a VM
It was so unconvincing I switched to Linux
I have had Linux for more than a year now, a universal blue managed one, I have forgotten what updates are even. Games play great, coding is super easy. Windows only exist because consumers are ignorant, but that can be said about most of capitalism.
Even if I had wanted to upgrade, I wouldn’t be able to, since Microsoft needs hardware mg computer doesn’t have. I can’t imagine most people would care enough to even think about that. They’d just keep using the computer until it no longer worked, and in the modern day, that will take a lot longer than it would have a decade or two ago.
I’m talking out of my ass, but I believe they couldn’t really convince the non-techies to upgrade from 7 & 8 to 10 either.
The average Joe doesn’t give a shit. They simply booted their computer one day and oops, it had upgraded itself to 10.
Microsoft could have almost this entire userbase on 11 by now without them even knowing thanks to 10’s automatic updating, but nooooooo they just absolutely had to require TPM or some shit.That happened to my mother. Now she wants me to fix that shit and I just tell her I don’t know how to.
I’m a little out of date in my tech knowledge, but I built my current PC, built them all, always had enough knowledge to just get my shit going. It’s a 9900k so I got a do the bios thingy to make it work with 11, but I just haven’t gotten around to doing it. I know it’s not a big deal, but here I am. I even did something in the bios not too long ago trying to use Docker to host a Minecraft server for my kids.
And so yeah, if I didn’t have to TPM, it’d be over and done, but I’m just dragging my feet, and will presumably continue to do so. Hey, maybe they announce a moving of the deadline, I feel like that’s been a thing in the past.
And let me just get out ahead of this: I have a proprietary software that only works with Windows. I’m in a niche field. I’m also not so aggressive about the whole OS thing, it works fine for me. I turn on computer (who am I kidding, it’s on 24/7 for literally every) and it starts up quickly, does what I need it to do, etc. I have laptops with 11 and they do the same. I turn off the stupid copilot features, do some light tweaking here and there, as I’ve been doing since XP, and it works.
I am admittedly interested in the Linux, but my interest in using my computer is not what it was back in my teens and early 20s, and so I just don’t care.
What did you have to do to use a 9900? It’s supported, oldest supported is 8th gen.
Microsoft ‘Convinced’ me to move to Linux, best move I’ve ever done.
The official support for Windows 10 ends on Oct 14, 2025. Give new life to your old computer. Save money and install Linux: https://endof10.org/
You can get extended security updates until October 2026
You can buy extended security updates, if you are using a Microsoft cloud account to sign in.
It didn’t cost me anything. I enabled windows backup to “qualify” but since I don’t use even the free one drive for anything, it’s just like 6 old college files in there. It didn’t touch anything else and enabled the updates so idk.
why should I pay for something that Linux gives for free?
Have they tried not being spyware?
Imo, even taking away the spying thing, windows design is just awful and they somehow manage to pile up fuckups and poor choices as they release new OSs.
It pretty much comes down to wanting to monetize the user experience instead of simply wanting to charge for the OS in the traditional way. The user becomes the commodity instead of the software.
They do charge in the traditional way for the OS.
They also charge the OEMs.
They just want more. The line must always go up.
Once again, the stock market ruins everything.
they will try to force it for people that isnt saavy enough to use another OS,.
Stop forcing shit no one wants on your users then!
Every fucking update… Hey let’s backup your stuff. Hey wanna backup your stuff? Let’s backup your stuff! We totally won’t hold it hostage if you stop paying us lol!
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They allow you to enroll in extended updates so you can get more time to upgrade 🤣
