Thanks to whoever posted this on reddit. I hope other clients detect and blocking it.

    • WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      Torrents are people sharing files with each other, uploading and downloading. Stremio downloads, but never uploads. And now it doesn’t want you to know who’s using it, because people kept banning it.

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        I though that streamio uploads too. Because a few months ago my internet browsing was slow, after I closed streamio the issue stopped.

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          I dont think stremio does either technically. Stremio it’s typically used as a front end application for debrid services. Mainly real debrid, all debrid and premiumize.

          I believe the 2 debrids only download, but i think premiumize seeds, but not 100% sure.

          That being said if a file gets added to these services it is not constantly leeching like op said. The real debid servers for example will download a torrent and distrubute the downloaded file throughout their cdn, leaving it in their cache for 30 days. I believe each time it is accessed by a user that 30 day clock is reset.

          Stremio typically only shows cached torrents in there app so in order for a user to force a download they would need to go to their debrid provider directly and add the torrent causing it to get added to the cache.

          Is it bad for the torrenting network, yes because they don’t seed, is stremio using up all of seeders bandwidth, probably not

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              Not 100% sure but since they are free links they wont come from torrents, at least not in the same way. They are being scraped from streaming websites.

              Whetger or not the original uploaded got them from a torrent is unknown but they would have just downloaded it once and uploaded so very different in its effect on torrenting.

              Those sites have always coexisted with torrents because they are often of low quality whereas torrents are higher quality

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            My girlfriend got a legal claim for using stremio when her vpn failed which in Germany is only possible if you actively upload something so I’d say it does that

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              Ok, maybe stremio has a torrent client compiled in or maybe a plugin i dont use has one then.

              However, if you turn off upload in your torrent client you can still get caught, uploading isnt want triggers it, connecting to peers with your exposed ip triggers

    • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.ee
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      Torrenting is a technology where a network of ordinary people share a file in tiny pieces all together. There’s no central server, you connect to one, ten, or a hundred other computers who each give you part of the file.

      Torrenting only works if people are uploading the file as well as downloading it. Giving a file to others is called seeding, and taking a file from others without giving back is called leeching. Most people are peers, who take the same amount they give. Ideally, everyone would be a peer, but since some people are leeches, we also need seeders.

      I’m not familiar with this stremio app, but if it does what I think it does, then it takes from the network without giving back and it can now pretend to be a different client to sneak onto the network. If enough stremio users watch a show, it’ll become unavailable to other pirates.

      • neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Not 100%, stremio is a front end for a debrid service and the debrid service will download the torrent and add it to their cache and stremio users will access the downloaded file directly from the debrid services’ servers.

        Only the initially download may cause a slow down of torrents. Idk exactly how they distribute the file to their cdn. If all the servers in their cdn download the same file at 1 time it may cause a temporary slow down of torrents but i would assume they don’t download directly on each server and instead download on some close to the requesting user and then use some kind of file synchronization technique to propogate the file through the network.

        Their cache is pretty huge and for most shows they already have tons of links cached and wouldn’t need to keep downloading very often.

        Stremio isn’t the first front end for these services and like all the rest of them it will eventually get shutdown too and this will continue long after stremio.

        The real.issuein my opinion isnt bandwidth hogging by debrid services its that if everyone migrates to them that the majority of the network will be leechers. With less seeders the remaining seeders will need more powerful computers to support the torrents and if they cant afford the upgrade them the whole system could collapse