I fixed the transmission in my sons car and rebuilt the turbo. Taught him how to do it.
I did something meaningful. I wrote the comment while I was taking a shit. Consequently, taking a shit has more value than fucking around with a bunch of obsolete technology to accomplish a useless task. What is the point of spending a ton of time to make something that is worse than a cheap network interface that you can buy on amazon for $10?
Going to keep saying it.
This is stupid and only morons are impressed with doing useless things. Do something meaningful with your time on this earth, dont fucking waste it on pointless bullshit.
You think rebuilding a turbo is meaningful? How many turbos is your son likely to rebuild in his lifetime? Presumably you’ve never read a work of fiction or spent any time watching TV or a movie, eaten a non utilitarian meal, had a haircut etc. Your take is bizarre. Setting aside the fact that humans need downtime (or apparently do apart from you) did you consider they may have learned something applicable doing this?
Rebuilding a turbo is useful not as a single activity, but because there are a number of transferable skills involved. Way to think deep on that one.
Where messing with ancient junk fails is because it is obsolete. The person who did it, had to know how to do it already. They dont learn anything new by applying old knowledge to do something useless. The activity lacks the acquisition of transferrable skills and there is nothing useful created at the completion.
Not sure if you’ve noticed, but I’m going to die on this hill. You’re more than welcome to be up here with me, but you may tire of the activity. I have IBS so I’m on the toilet a good bit, I have the time to keep going unfortunately.
Rebuilding a turbo is useful not as a single activity, but because there are a number of transferable skills involved. Way to think deep on that one
Well no, I said meaningful, way to not read I guess.
Where messing with ancient junk fails is because it is obsolete. The person who did it, had to know how to do it already. They don’t learn anything new by applying old knowledge to do something useless. The activity lacks the acquisition of transferrable skills and there is nothing useful created at the completion.
You’ve decided they learned no transferable skills because they must’ve known how to do it already - what’s your basis for that? Or you’ve just decided this is the case because it suits your argument?
Even if they didn’t learn something new, refining an existing skill is not also useful? How do you divine what will be useful in the future?
Let’s set aside the project directly, can you also assert they learned nothing about anything as part of this, certainly looks like they did research. Then made a video, no skills acquired or honed there either? You must be stalking these guys.
Let’s set aside any personal skill acquisition - you can assert they didn’t inspire someone else? Give someone else an idea that has direct practical application? Tickle someone the right way to go mess with something they’ve been putting off for a while? Jeez, you’re pretty confident in your assertions.
Set even that aside, if they’re making money out of this that in some way funds someone else, a child or loved one, in an endeavour that contributes to society then that has benefit too.
Setting that aside too, this might just be the thing that makes their life livable enough to let them contribute in some other way.
You’ve drawn an arbitrary line at what you think is acceptable and hold everyone to your standard - that’s phenomenally conceited.
Not sure if you’ve noticed, but I’m going to die on this hill. You’re more than welcome to be up here with me, but you may tire of the activity. I have IBS so I’m on the toilet a good bit, I have the time to keep going unfortunately.
We’re right back at the start, you’re wasting your “precious” time whinging about someone else’s project or passtime in a substantially less than productive way. So much so you’re willing to dedicate unlimited time to it. Why is it you’re allowed to waste your toilet time? Could you not spend that time learning too, no doubt it’d make everyone else’s life better. A hypocrite as well as everything else.
Quantity does not equal quality. You can keep going if you like and seek to justify your folly, but my original assertion stands. Making a pile of old forgotten modems download a file at .6 MBPS is not an achievement to be celebrated. It is a waste of time, and people that want to attempt to justify a total stranger wasting time on pointless activities are doing little more than showing that they too waste a lot of time on pointless activities.
When we are on our respective deathbeds, I am going to presume neither of us will go down thinking “I regret doing useful things with my time…”.
No one said quality and quantity were equal. That’s just shifting the goal posts and poorly at that, you’ve no idea the skills acquired or the knock on effect. Certainly it’s taught me about bonding interfaces and I’m sure I’m not the only one. It’s certainly something I’ll look into further and it’s certainly going to have a practical real world effect. On that basis alone you’re just wrong.
Making a pile of old forgotten modems download a file at .6 MBPS is not an achievement to be celebrated. It is a waste of time
Like your turbo, there’s plenty to be learned along the way and plenty to be achieved getting to that point, I’ve listed a few above. Wrapping this in a project the person enjoys is a cherry on top.
and people that want to attempt to justify a total stranger wasting time on pointless activities are doing little more than showing that they too waste a lot of time on pointless activities.
From the start my comments have been more about pointing out your hypocrisy, somewhere along the line I’ve been sucked into pointing out it’s not even pointless. People who shit on people pursuing their own goals certainly are wasting their time, I may or may not be - the key difference is I’m not spouting some nonsense about how everything needs to be done to learn or create something new.
I’m not sure how you infer I waste a lot of time doing pointless stuff, you know little to nothing about me, more just making stuff up to satisfy your argument.
When we are on our respective deathbeds, I am going to presume neither of us will go down thinking “I regret doing useful things with my time…”.
I doubt I’ll give a second thought to fixing the toilet tbh, but I know for sure plenty of the stupid shit I’ve done will make me smile.
Ultimately you don’t see the point in the project and that’s fine, for some reason you need to be a complete hypocrite about it and die on some imaginary hill.
I’m not a hypocrite when I’m right–and I am 100% right. You can call me whatever you like, it won’t change the truth.
Wasting time on useless pursuits is time wasted. There is no resource more precious than time. Wasting it is a sin. Encouraging people to waste time and defending the act is worse because now many people will waste time. That is a bad outcome. There no upside.
Nothing useful was produced, nothing useful was learned in the process. Even if there was some peripheral learning that took place, it was accidental at best.
This is my hill and I will die all over it. Youre welcome to be here if you like, but this corpse is in it for the duration. You may not enjoy the aroma.
I fixed the transmission in my sons car and rebuilt the turbo. Taught him how to do it.
I did something meaningful. I wrote the comment while I was taking a shit. Consequently, taking a shit has more value than fucking around with a bunch of obsolete technology to accomplish a useless task. What is the point of spending a ton of time to make something that is worse than a cheap network interface that you can buy on amazon for $10?
Going to keep saying it.
This is stupid and only morons are impressed with doing useless things. Do something meaningful with your time on this earth, dont fucking waste it on pointless bullshit.
You think rebuilding a turbo is meaningful? How many turbos is your son likely to rebuild in his lifetime? Presumably you’ve never read a work of fiction or spent any time watching TV or a movie, eaten a non utilitarian meal, had a haircut etc. Your take is bizarre. Setting aside the fact that humans need downtime (or apparently do apart from you) did you consider they may have learned something applicable doing this?
Rebuilding a turbo is useful not as a single activity, but because there are a number of transferable skills involved. Way to think deep on that one.
Where messing with ancient junk fails is because it is obsolete. The person who did it, had to know how to do it already. They dont learn anything new by applying old knowledge to do something useless. The activity lacks the acquisition of transferrable skills and there is nothing useful created at the completion.
Not sure if you’ve noticed, but I’m going to die on this hill. You’re more than welcome to be up here with me, but you may tire of the activity. I have IBS so I’m on the toilet a good bit, I have the time to keep going unfortunately.
Well no, I said meaningful, way to not read I guess.
You’ve decided they learned no transferable skills because they must’ve known how to do it already - what’s your basis for that? Or you’ve just decided this is the case because it suits your argument?
Even if they didn’t learn something new, refining an existing skill is not also useful? How do you divine what will be useful in the future?
Let’s set aside the project directly, can you also assert they learned nothing about anything as part of this, certainly looks like they did research. Then made a video, no skills acquired or honed there either? You must be stalking these guys.
Let’s set aside any personal skill acquisition - you can assert they didn’t inspire someone else? Give someone else an idea that has direct practical application? Tickle someone the right way to go mess with something they’ve been putting off for a while? Jeez, you’re pretty confident in your assertions.
Set even that aside, if they’re making money out of this that in some way funds someone else, a child or loved one, in an endeavour that contributes to society then that has benefit too.
Setting that aside too, this might just be the thing that makes their life livable enough to let them contribute in some other way.
You’ve drawn an arbitrary line at what you think is acceptable and hold everyone to your standard - that’s phenomenally conceited.
We’re right back at the start, you’re wasting your “precious” time whinging about someone else’s project or passtime in a substantially less than productive way. So much so you’re willing to dedicate unlimited time to it. Why is it you’re allowed to waste your toilet time? Could you not spend that time learning too, no doubt it’d make everyone else’s life better. A hypocrite as well as everything else.
writes preachy wall of text with circular logic
“You’re wasting time and conceited!!!”
I’m still right.
Preachy? No preaching here, just a list of examples of potential benefits. Where’s the circular logic?
Lol, I don’t care if you’re wasting time, I’m pointing to the hypocrisy of it.
There’s a wall of text that’d argue you’re not right.
Quantity does not equal quality. You can keep going if you like and seek to justify your folly, but my original assertion stands. Making a pile of old forgotten modems download a file at .6 MBPS is not an achievement to be celebrated. It is a waste of time, and people that want to attempt to justify a total stranger wasting time on pointless activities are doing little more than showing that they too waste a lot of time on pointless activities.
When we are on our respective deathbeds, I am going to presume neither of us will go down thinking “I regret doing useful things with my time…”.
No one said quality and quantity were equal. That’s just shifting the goal posts and poorly at that, you’ve no idea the skills acquired or the knock on effect. Certainly it’s taught me about bonding interfaces and I’m sure I’m not the only one. It’s certainly something I’ll look into further and it’s certainly going to have a practical real world effect. On that basis alone you’re just wrong.
Like your turbo, there’s plenty to be learned along the way and plenty to be achieved getting to that point, I’ve listed a few above. Wrapping this in a project the person enjoys is a cherry on top.
From the start my comments have been more about pointing out your hypocrisy, somewhere along the line I’ve been sucked into pointing out it’s not even pointless. People who shit on people pursuing their own goals certainly are wasting their time, I may or may not be - the key difference is I’m not spouting some nonsense about how everything needs to be done to learn or create something new.
I’m not sure how you infer I waste a lot of time doing pointless stuff, you know little to nothing about me, more just making stuff up to satisfy your argument.
I doubt I’ll give a second thought to fixing the toilet tbh, but I know for sure plenty of the stupid shit I’ve done will make me smile.
Ultimately you don’t see the point in the project and that’s fine, for some reason you need to be a complete hypocrite about it and die on some imaginary hill.
I’m not a hypocrite when I’m right–and I am 100% right. You can call me whatever you like, it won’t change the truth.
Wasting time on useless pursuits is time wasted. There is no resource more precious than time. Wasting it is a sin. Encouraging people to waste time and defending the act is worse because now many people will waste time. That is a bad outcome. There no upside.
Nothing useful was produced, nothing useful was learned in the process. Even if there was some peripheral learning that took place, it was accidental at best.
This is my hill and I will die all over it. Youre welcome to be here if you like, but this corpse is in it for the duration. You may not enjoy the aroma.