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These people don’t even read their own literature. The Catholic church’s ban on alchemy is about falsely claiming something is a valuable metal in order to pay for debts. It has nothing to do with the occult – the ban was because it’s a sin to lie / cheat / steal. A saint is even on record saying that alchemical gold is ok if the end if product is real gold.
With that context, of course God doesn’t give a shit if you use SQLAlchemy as long as you aren’t using it to defraud people. If you were defrauding people, it wouldn’t matter what tool you used.
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I’m shocked that a person who thinks the name of a piece of software can harm them doesn’t understand their own religion.
If you were defrauding people, it wouldn’t matter what tool you used.
Stays silent while coding the JezuzLovezU worm…
Well, god generally doesn’t give a shit at all if he exists, so there’s that.
Now of course one could make some damning argument about the state of the tech industry in practice, resulting in one of those bell curve memes with “using SQLalchemy is a sin” on both far sides and “noooo it’s just a name it’s fine there’s no fraud involved” in the middle
God would have to exist to give any shits at all
Just wait until they learn about Daemons
And killing children.
Master/slave systems are probably a-ok for them though.
The only reason killing children is bad in their view would be if the child is unborn/not spawned already or if they want to abuse it but can’t anymore.
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That’s actually sacred.
They’d probably be fine with that as long as they’re not unborn
Better not tell them about daemons I guess.
From the title of the screenshot I was sure it was going to be about daemons.
Or about the D.E.V.I.L.S. format listing option on ffmpeg
Yet they say “Easter Eggs”, referring to a Pagan tradition. As hypocritical as it gets.
The user shouldn’t code in Python. That’s a fucking serpent. It caused Eve to eat the apple. Original sin. Holy shit, the most popular coding language is from the fucking devil! Mask off, mind blown, what the eff.
On that note, I sure hope he doesn’t uses any Apple products either.
I mean, that Apple logo has a bite out of it. Eve’s bite! And it ships with Python!
Someone call the Inquisition!
He’s supposed to be using TempleOS and coding i HolyC
This is the kind of person who would stick to IDE (with master and slave disks ofc) because S-ATA is only an N away from eternal damnation
It must be exhausting to go through life saddled with so much mental bullshit.
Not surprising considering Catholicism scores quite high on the BITE model for cults.
The thing about mental bullshit is that it’s invisible to the person who’s got it.
So look in the mirror now and then.
I’m not Catholic but I’m pretty sure the answer is no.
Playing games with religious themes is also not a sin, as you are expected to understand the difference between fact and fiction.
My source is that one of my best friends is Catholic
If they understood the difference between fact and fiction they wouldn’t be a catholic. They’re supposed to believe that crackers and wine literally turn into Jesus’s body and blood by saying an incantation. Alchemy makes more sense than that, so I could see some people having issues.
No, no literally, figuratively.
The fact is there is no evidence for existance of God. But also there is no evidence that disproves the existence of God.
But still… there was a guy 2000 years ago that said “There is God”
And whole religion is based on a question “do I believe the guy that lived 2000 years ago”
And I said yes and I don’t care what your answer is.
Just don’t be a douchebag.
No, it symbolically turns into the flesh and blood of Christ.
God this kind of edge Lord bad theology bullshit is one of the reasons why I’m glad I’m not allowed to read it anymore. Do I have to see it here too?
No, Catholicism dogma says it literally changes into it through transubstantiation. That’s what the church teaches. You can not believe that part if you like, like I do, I just go slightly further and not have belief in any of it.
In a thread about making fun of the beliefs of a catholic, it’s wrong to make fun of the beliefs of catholics? What is the difference between making fun of the silly belief that this person can’t use a tool named after alchemy and making fun of their belief in their own form of spellcraft? If you weren’t in a thread literally making fun of the beliefs of a religious person, you might have some ground to stand on. As it is though, why are you in this thread at all if you are bothered by it?
They take on the spiritual qualities of such things, on the outward they still remain wine and bread, even says that in the very article you posted. And again, Wikipedia is not a credible source, did you not take High school?
Where does it say otherwise? It very clearly says over and over that the substance becomes the body and blood of christ. It also says the appearance and outward characteristics stay the same, but the substance literally changes somehow in an undetectable way.
Also, I’m not writting a damn paper. I don’t need academic sources to post something online. Wikipedia is the best resource to share information with people. That’s the whole point. Here’s another. Meanwhile you are here with no sources at all. Say what you will about Wikipedia, but it’s a better source than your ass. If you want more or different information then you can search for it yourself. Those should give you all the search terms you need and I hope you can figure it out.
In your Wikipedia article that the Bread and Wine maintained the characteristics of bread and wine on the outside, but were in essence the body and blood of christ.
Yes, the essence of it changes, but it’s somehow undetectable. It becomes his body and blood, but you can tell using your senses. Yeah, it doesn’t really make sense and language doesn’t seem to work well to describe it, because it’s insane. That’s the dogma of the Catholic church though. It also isn’t the most crazy thing you’re expected to believe. If this is an issue for anyone, they probably shouldn’t believe in the religion at all.
I grew up Catholic. The answer might be yes because weird things are considered sins, but there’s a built in mechanism for getting around that.
Confession is used for way worse things than “I used the devil’s tool at the instruction of my teacher”
Bro one of my best friends is literally catholic, but he is also a furry, and he has played Cult of the Lamb without any guilt. This is because he can differentiate between fact and fiction, he can tell the difference between a sincerely held religious belief, and something that someone made up is a fun joke.
I am not a christian, but as someone who interacts with someone of the faith long enough to get the gist, and see how he behaves, it really makes me roll my eyes when I see someone who claimed that they went to Catholic School that one time when they were like seven, and they saw two nuns making creationism in the closet, and one of the creationisms looked at them.
I’m not sure what that last paragraph was about, but I was extremely religious throughout highschool. Like, leading youth group retreats and all.
Catholicism comes in many forms for many people. The OP could be legit. My family struggled with the idea of fantasy. It was a strongly held belief that dabbling in things that tilted occult would result in possession. An actual conversation I had with my mother was that Magic the Gathering would result in demonic possession, which would not be fixed because the Catholic Church officially stopped exorcism after Vatican II.
Some people take Catholicism more seriously and at seriously more weird ways than you can imagine from “having a Catholic friend.”
Hehe, religious people and understanding the difference between fact and fiction… 😂
I mean the very root of it is doing away with facts, and just keeping the fiction.
I really thought I left the perpetually 14 Edgelord Atheists behind when I left Reddit
I’m sorry. I don’t think this is a “Reddit thing”. I’ve been here longer than I’ve been on Reddit. I agree that we have the same dynamics here, that people often are incentivized to reply with negative comments. But this is a community with “Humor” in the name. And edgy humor is part of the discussion. And where I’m from, being an atheist is fairly common. I still think if you were able to tell facts from fiction, you wouldn’t be religious in the first place and mixing both terms in one sentence is kind of an oxymoron. So I think it’s more that both the audience on Reddit and on Lemmy is quite diverse. And we both have different perspectives on life, probably also are part of different cultures and maybe have a different take on humor and which things to scroll past and which things to reply to.
I’m seeing the edgy, but not the humor.
“ReLIEgion bad, upvotes to the left” isn’t funny, it’s just annoying
That is a reddit mindset. I don’t think it works that way here. Comments usually get only a few votes on Lemmy and I don’t think many people chose this platform for the upvotes. That specific post got 0 upvotes and 1 downvote (given my instance fixed federation and the numbers are correct now.) I don’t want to get on your nerves too much. Just explain my perspective. Religious people are super loud. They want to dictate how I live, if I can marry someone if I’m gay, oppress women, oppress minorities and they wage war all around the world. Have done so for centuries, and continue to do so. I feel entitled to call out their BS as long as they try to make everyone’s life worse. I promise to stop in the exact moment they refrain from politics, violence and stop telling me and my surroundings how to live our lives. You can’t just do all of that and then expect the other side to stay silent.
I used to have an rpg on steam, with “fantasy” in the name. One day someone sent me an email asking if there was any way to remove all references to magic from the game so they could play it, as having witches and stuff was a big no for them, but they still wanted to try the game.
Sure fam, unchecks “Magic, Witches and stuff”.
Then they can interact with peasant NPCs all day long.
Hello there, stranger! I seem to have misplaced my ring! You look gullible enough that I can trick you into looking for it for me, because I am too lazy to do it myself!
You know, it would be really nice if some of them actually knew what that book was talking about sometimes. From my understanding the Bible describes and condemns witchcraft as making deals with evil for power, and basically uses it as condemnation of thinking that the ends can ever justify the means by taking things to the logical extreme.
In most modern settings at least, magic is either an inerhant trait, lots of carful study, or a bargain with a benign spirit of some variety.
There’s is admittedly a long history of people missing the point of this, most of which stated by an utter loon trying to get back at is ex. The people at the time utterly ignored medieval Karen, but this drove him to rant a lot in writings which then got used as a source by latter assholes to justify gojng after the people they wanted to get back at.
All of which ignores the obvious of course, which is to say the Bible doesn’t say you can’t experience story’s about sin in the first place.
Isn’t almost all of the Bible (as in everything leading up to Jesus and then also most of the reality Jesus encountered) a story about sin?
And near incest, and killing, and more killing, and shit going down, god getting angry and killing people, and some other stuff.
And OP talks about Alchemy, which commonly uses the energy that different materials have inherently to create magical artifacts.
It’s literally using what God already created.
I would immediately patch in a “no witches” mode.
Every instance of “witch” is replaced with “warlock”.
And if there were graphics, every witch would have a photorealistic penis hanging out the front of
herhis robes.
Alchemy isn’t even a strictly occult thing. It was something done in the medieval era that was basically a very early form of science before most of the things they were trying to do were considered impossible
I mean alchemy is an occult practice. It’s just history only pays attention to the physical aspects (turning things into gold, etc). Often times the medium to turn a substance into gold is called the philosophers stone
But this is only a portion of it. The philosophers stone in alchemy is actually spiritual enlightenment or becoming one with everything. Hence the concept of turning anything into gold, gold being enlightenment and the universe and the plain material before the transformation is preenlightened individuals. They all become the same (one, gold) after attaining it.
Most alchemical philosophy is occult/spiritual and the chemistry aspects are a metaphor for the evolution of the soul.
I think because modernity is mostly materialist in its philosophy that we ignore the underlying spirituality associated with alchemy
I just skimmed this but shouldn’t people who are unable/ubwilling to live in the modern world be true to themselves and also not code in some demonic language?
Just skip it and piss off dear catholic
Wait until they learn about daemons
Even the real daemons are just spirits it’s the Christians who literally demonized them.
The idiocy goes back more than a millenium.
I had a crazy Catholic prepper neighbor way back in '99 (she was the hipster of preppers, one of the things she railed about was all the people prepping just for y2k when she had already been doing it for years, but that’s another story) and one of her things was how evil bill gates was- so I told her Linux was evil-er because of the daemons. Gave her a lot to think about.
Does that command refer to the His Dark Materials thing? I thought regular demons were spelt without the a, but maybe it’s an old spelling.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)
The term was coined by the programmers at MIT’s Project MAC. According to Fernando J. Corbató, who worked on Project MAC in 1963, his team was the first to use the term daemon, inspired by Maxwell’s demon, an imaginary agent in physics and thermodynamics that helped to sort molecules, stating, “We fancifully began to use the word daemon to describe background processes that worked tirelessly to perform system chores”.[2] Unix systems inherited this terminology. Maxwell’s demon is consistent with Greek mythology’s interpretation of a daemon as a supernatural being working in the background.
The sinful tools with occult names work. I think that should be a big pointer here.
I recommend SQLitany when flexing your cross joined faith in the DB (daily bread).
This person is really gonna hate my new web framework “I submit to the horned lord, Lucifer, the light bringer and ruler of this world. All hail Satan.”
I think it’s gonna be big since it’s the only web framework for Malbolge.
Lucifer and Satan aren’t the same entity.
These are titles not names
Depends on how you interpret the Golden Age text. But you’re correct that the former is the light bringer and the latter is adversary/legal opponent.
But the silver age crap messed with that canon.
My head canon is that Lucifer was a member of the Q Continuum while Satan was a misunderstood Time Lord.
The Pope needs to have a sit-down with the folks at Disney to learn how to properly manage a shared imaginary universe.
Bro, you’re not in high school anymore. No one is impressed that you threw a fit when Mom took you to church that one time.
Also I wouldn’t get Disney’s help for a shared imaginary universe, considering the Marvel Cinematic Universe was cool, but it’s been going on too long, none of the shows are any good.
It really should have ended it end game, because it just feels like every movie now is just build up for a different thing, and the only part of it anyone cares about anymore is what Spider-Man meme are they going to do?
I was sexually assaulted multiple times at multiple churches.
Fuck you and fuck your trivializing.
It’s OK. I’m making a joke, not calling the corners… Though I guess this could be sort of a ward for a software community, but I think it wouldn’t have to be any kind of accurate to work given the entity it’s keeping out.
