Result falls short of giving Milei a congressional majority but surprises many analysts after series of scandals
The party of Argentina’s far-right president, Javier Milei, has won Sunday’s midterm elections after a campaign in which Donald Trump announced a $40bn bailout for the country and made continued aid conditional on the victory of his Argentinian counterpart.
With more than 95% of ballots counted, La Libertad Avanza secured 40.84% of the nationwide vote, in an election widely seen as a de facto referendum on the self-styled anarcho-capitalist’s nearly two years in power. The Peronist opposition, Fuerza Patria, secured 31.67%.
While the result falls short of giving Milei a congressional majority – which remains with the Peronists – it has surprised Argentinian analysts, given the recent blows to the libertarian’s popularity from corruption allegations involving his sister to the current economic crisis.
Milei is not Far right. HeS a libertarian
Edit; I meant libertarian no liberal
I’ll say this, he is smart and sells his opinions as true libertarianism, however now and then, he let’s a peek behind the curtain of his true intentions:
Milei clearly plays the hard libertarian booklet while creating a path towards a fascist state.
(Mostly sourced from here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Javier_Milei)
Libertarian is far right
No it is not. At least not in Argentina. Here the people I know who are aligned with the actual far right only voted for milei because they didn’t want to vote for the left. But they voted him kicking and screaming.
Most libertarians won’t identity as such. Because of how completely and utterly it’s been taken by the far right. The fact that your far right could stomach voting for him, a different sect of far right. As opposed to someone on the left. Your own words betray your knowledge.
That is a very linear way to view things. Past elections were not a single line. They were more like a triangle a highly skewed to the right triangle, but a triangle non the less. The actual far right was heavily siding with dictators.
He identifies himself as liberal/libertarian
Well he certainly doesn’t seem to be all that opposed to dictators if you’ve noticed.
I’m not saying He’s not right aligned. I’m saying He’s not far-right
He is extremely far right. Got it
Who is Milieu serving? Who is he dealing austerity to? Who has your economy, like ours served. Why should it be saved? The enemy of your enemy isn’t automatically your friend.
After all, your friend is a fairly buddy buddy with those who would have been dictators. And our own fascist populist for that matter. Sending 40 billion taxpayer dollars your way to prop him up. 40 billion, which even a small segment could help a lot of our own people. 40 billion that your people will likely see less than a fraction of a percent of in the long run. As the usual suspects soak up all the resources as they always have.
Both our countries need basic living affordability. Something austerity and cutting services will never accomplish. It’s all just theater for the wealthy. Even if inflation outright stopped this instant for either of our countries. It would help neither of us. What would help us both? Housing security. Red Vienna style public housing would be a great start. Follow that up with basic food security. Both our countries could do it. But neither will. Because we’re not who they serve.
But yes, if you evaluate everything on a single axis of politics, such as right and left. Things are going to be at best linear. It’s not a useful measurement, really. Just because someone appears slightly less authoritarian doesn’t make them any more right or left.
You have a lot of learning to do.
Libertarianism isn’t a local ideology, it’s a far-right ideology that has its misaligned roots in anarchy.
They love to call it anarcho capitalism and usually fail to see the contradiction.
Maybe look into different ideologies and how they are set up on the political spectrum.
Libertarian (in the american meaning, the european is the opposite) can be considered far-right, at least in the economic sense. They also frequently hold views on democracy and cultural values that are those of the far-right, and in the american politics, both are strongly intertwined.
It’s tough to imagine a liberal standing with Trump on stage making theatrics like he does.
At the very least he’s populist. And his views for a smaller government go beyond being fiscally conservative. A libertarian seems like a reasonable label but that’s different than a liberal. Why would you say he’s liberal?
also “liberal” isn’t left either. it’s the ideology of capitalism.
To be fair, I think the words liberal, left and capitalism all have different meanings to different groups. And sometimes I think they subtly change meanings while someone is making a single logical point.
What do you mean specifically here?
That a lot of political groups that align themselves as liberals are also in favour of free trade? It reads as if you are also characterising capitalism as a negative so I’m presuming it’s something like enabling the rich and powerful to maximise profits with minimal oversight. Since you are only relating capitalism to liberals I think you’re referring to the far-right rhetoric that they will stop this “capitalism” but ignoring that most traditional political groups thought of as conservative are also pro free trade, and ignoring that these far-right groups haven’t (I would argue) taken any/many actions that target stoping this “capitalism” (for example Trumps tariffs are practically for demanding concessions from other countries and you can see this because their unstable values hurt local industries but help pushing for demands).
Or maybe you simply mean that the left as you use the label is focused on civil liberties without being tied to systems of economics?
I’m sure you have plenty to say about what I wrote but can you lead with how I was wrong with my assumptions about what you meant?
Liberalism is an upgrade from previous feudalism, but it replaces kings with rich people making laws to cement their power. even though it is meant to provide equality, it only does if private property, like landlords or factory owners is preserved, which is the pivotal point of capitalism.
which does result in exploitation, and inevitably leads to inequality, endless human suffering, and dissatisfaction. but when the public is against the system that favours them powerful, they will pivot to fascism.
Liberalism paints itself as progressive, but will only give symbolic victories. Remember the defund the police and BLM? once liberal politicians got in power, they renamed a street to BLM, and raise police budgets. Symbolic victories.
It’s a pattern that once you see, you can’t unsee.
Let’s run with this. What are some political examples of “left”?
Choose your flavour, democratic socialism is probably the most “centrist” left. it maintains capitalism but ensures a decrease in inequality and eliminating poverty and hunger…
Further left you get more utopian ideologies (some mutually incompatible), Like mutual aid, anarchism, socialism, planned economies… and much munch more.
Some were tried and were successful until the fascists or CIA intervened. Look at operation condor, the closest thing to an anarchic state is DAANES, which is a feminist federalist state which the mainstream media completely ignores and is fighting for its life in a war against NATO.
the reason we don’t usually hear about the left, is because anything left of liberalism tends to get murdered by the CIA. even today, Mandami is being threatened with deportation despite being an American citizen for being a socialist and leading the polls.
as someone who actually understands these words, im fiscally conservative.
Sorry. Language issue. I meant libertarian
No worries. I edited my reply to put both words on the same sentence to help if that was the issue.
I did wonder about this a bit though. He is often framed in media as far right but unlike Trump or Farage he doesn’t seem to be so loud with anti-immigrant statements in the same sort of demonising way. Eventually I found this and I’m curious how wrong or right you think it is:
https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2024C37/
Here’s some (biased) quotes that I think make it seem like the far right label is reasonable but I’m sill pretty ignorant myself (and sorry that the vocabulary is different, it was a pain for me so I’m guessing it’s not perfect for you):