• Evotech@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    They stop a fair bit of attacks and vectors. There’s many good defcon talks about this

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          18 hours ago

          You need to invest in server side detection, which is more expensive than slapping their eac bandaid on it and calling it a day.

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            10 hours ago

            Server side anti-cheat won’t detect things like aimbots or wall hacks. An ideal anti-cheat would run both client and server side, without requiring kernel level access on the client.

          • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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            17 hours ago

            Server side detection still won’t catch the ESP and wallhacks that run entirely clientside, let alone the methods here using custom hardware and/or a seperate computer to actually run the hack. Nothing is being sent to the game or server at all to detect.

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              11 hours ago

              I mean, the solution here is to stop being lazy and sending enemy position information when there’s no possible way for you to see them, but again, that takes a tiny bit more processing power.

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                10 hours ago

                I mean, even that doesn’t stop aimbots. They’ll just snap directly to the enemy’s head as soon as they’re visible. If anything, this would make programming aimbots easier in several ways, because a big part of programming a good aimbot is figuring out how to prevent snapping to enemies through walls. If the server is already handling that, the aimbot won’t need to bother with it.

                If anything, a stupid simple method of server-side aimbot detection would simply be to create phantom player locations. Like randomly generate fake player locations without any character models. Invisible to regular players, but anyone who snaps to that fake location just got busted for aimbotting.

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                  10 hours ago

                  tbf though, detecting aimbots server-side is generally pretty simple.

                  They don’t move like actual humans.

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              17 hours ago

              I fail to see how you couldn’t account for it, in this case you could just enforce facing as a value that is sent to the server and then just use a review like some games have, it wouldn’t protect against large volumes of cheaters, but there are other methods that could be employed for en masse. You wouldn’t necessarily get an instant response, but you would get all of the wallers who aren’t insanely good at hiding it.