The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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  • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    Why do we fucking still Need to use military confrontation for everything?

    Fr in this modern world with phones, internet and much more, why do we have to confront by sending young people in a year grinder?

    I am ashamed of my species

    • khepri@lemmy.world
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      Well because no amount of “phones internet and much more” is going to stop a foreign invading soldier with a gun from taking your shit and killing you, would be the very short answer.

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        7 hours ago

        Apperently yall havent got this isnt a realistic thing but a call on how war isnt that good you know?

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          ok, well if the point you were trying to make is “war isnt that good you know?” then hard agree from me, but that’s a serious motte-and-baily retreat from your original words wondering why we still sometimes need armed confrontation even in today’s world.

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            7 hours ago

            Aremed confrontation as in military, especially if the people dont want to be there fighting, Isnt good.

            Unfortunately with some governments you cant treat in peace and the people Will Need to arm themselves and do stuff.

            I still Think that in any case there should be the leasts deaths possibile

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              No one is arguing otherwise.

              But your original question is why do we still need the military when we have smartphones, and of course the answer is because the existence of smartphones does not dissuade the likes of Putin, because why would it?

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      The funny thing is Russia should know full well how effective psyops are. They’re installing friendly far right assholes abusing the senility of boomers. They legitimately have a ton of countries on the path to destroy themselves. They could just… wait a decade and win.

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        They could just… wait a decade and win.

        Is Putin going to be alive in a decade? He doesn’t give a shit about Russia, he only cares about his own glory. What good is controlling the world after he’s dead? He’d rather control Ukraine now and let the entire country crumble after he’s dead.

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        Russia should know full well … countries on the path to destroy themselves … wait a decade and win.

        There is a growing division of the AfD in Germany between eastern and western oriented politicians. I am not sure if Russia can rely on controlling those parties in 10 years.

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          That’s because the hard rights world philosophy is based on hate. They invariably turn on each other. Hard right political parties are always in a transient state of existence.

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      12 hours ago

      UH OH - you did a ‘leftism’ in the warmongering liberal instance. you get sentenced to several downvotes and a brainwashed accusation!

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        Warmongering in this case being defined as discussing the possibility of another nation state attacking them.

        • Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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          the situation in ukraine did not happen in a vacuum. there are reasons why russia decided to invade.

          there is no logical explaination why russia would want to attack NATO and trigger article 5.

          but hey as long as the fear exists we can watch line go up in rheinmetall, saab & dassault stocks so the capital of a stagnating empire can save itself.

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        What a wild thing to say about supporting a sovereign nation in defending its borders.

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        Haaai :3 i already saw you a couple times herw on lemmy.

        Yeah btw these fuckers are everywhere .

        Ik Surprised no One told me to go kms yet