I am simply saying that this org are simply using antisemitism to oppress anybody who criticize Israel occupation or even humanize Palestinians kids exactly like Israeli consecutives governments has been doing since it’s creation
The group repeat Israel government propaganda and rhetoric so I don’t understand your criticism of the title of the article. Only mentioning the group name would make it look like it is a legitimate antisemitism group
I agree with the analogy. Your simple point is a fine one.
I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse. That change is to replace “Pro-Israel group” with “stopantisemitism” in the title. The analogy can be easily made in the OP body, comments, and likely springs to any readers mind. It also removes the potential for kibbitzing by apologists about how ‘oh but this is really an american org’.
No, the current title title is the right title. The group has not a single unique talking point everything is copypasta of Israeli ridiculous claims. Like the claim of Palestinians using dolls and fake blood to fasly accuse Israel of killing babies
Your criticism would be right if you has a single evidence that this group has ever criticized the government of Israel and criticized the genocide or has ever show some empathy to Gazans but right now your argument is factually wrong
This conspiracy has been around for years, but mentions of Pallywood spiked dramatically after Oct. 7, 2023, far surpassing previous peaks for the term during past Israeli military offensives in Gaza and the West Bank. Beyond Israel, Pallywood has gained traction in right-wing circles worldwide, particularly in the U.S. and India. One of the most grotesque examples came in December 2023, when a wave of pro-Israel accounts—including the official @Israel handle, the Jerusalem Post, and influencers like Ben Shapiro—amplified the claim that a grieving Palestinian man, seen in a widely shared video cradling his killed baby grandson, was faking it. “Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll),” **the @Israel account wrote in a post that was viewed more than 1.3 million times. Others—including StopAntisemitism, Hen Mazzig, and Yoseph Haddad, echoed the claim to millions more.
Please explain why my “criticism” would be stronger if stopantisemitism were ever an anti-israeli body. I don’t understand that at all. This would show they have principles, instead of being a grift.
Plenty of other orgs have useful idiots and fans. They are ‘pro-Israel’, but I don’t think that’s the most useful descriptor or context.
The group repeat the same exact Israeli state and government lies and propaganda so they are 100% pro Israel group. Denying that is like denying that 1 +1 = 2
Yes, they are pro-Israel. They are also an american grift that’s very profitable.
I feel like you’re saying 2 is an even number, and I’m saying it’s also literally 2. Specificity has value, and I think there should be a good reason to be vague instead of specific.
I will ask again: why is my argument for changing the title stronger if stopantisemetism were anti-Israel?
Explain how it is not a good title to use the designation of Pro Israel group in the title when the group has the exact same propaganda as the Israeli government
I am not interested in telling you that you have done bad. I am interested in telling you that you could do better. I think this change is an improvement because:
I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse.
I am simply saying that this org are simply using antisemitism to oppress anybody who criticize Israel occupation or even humanize Palestinians kids exactly like Israeli consecutives governments has been doing since it’s creation
The group repeat Israel government propaganda and rhetoric so I don’t understand your criticism of the title of the article. Only mentioning the group name would make it look like it is a legitimate antisemitism group
I agree with the analogy. Your simple point is a fine one.
I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse. That change is to replace “Pro-Israel group” with “stopantisemitism” in the title. The analogy can be easily made in the OP body, comments, and likely springs to any readers mind. It also removes the potential for kibbitzing by apologists about how ‘oh but this is really an american org’.
That’s the simple change that I’m suggesting.
No, the current title title is the right title. The group has not a single unique talking point everything is copypasta of Israeli ridiculous claims. Like the claim of Palestinians using dolls and fake blood to fasly accuse Israel of killing babies
Your criticism would be right if you has a single evidence that this group has ever criticized the government of Israel and criticized the genocide or has ever show some empathy to Gazans but right now your argument is factually wrong
https://archive.ph/20250531185109/https://slate.com/technology/2025/05/israel-gaza-war-news-palestine-pallywood.html#selection-1159.0-1191.1
Please explain why my “criticism” would be stronger if stopantisemitism were ever an anti-israeli body. I don’t understand that at all. This would show they have principles, instead of being a grift.
Plenty of other orgs have useful idiots and fans. They are ‘pro-Israel’, but I don’t think that’s the most useful descriptor or context.
The group repeat the same exact Israeli state and government lies and propaganda so they are 100% pro Israel group. Denying that is like denying that 1 +1 = 2
Yes, they are pro-Israel. They are also an american grift that’s very profitable.
I feel like you’re saying 2 is an even number, and I’m saying it’s also literally 2. Specificity has value, and I think there should be a good reason to be vague instead of specific.
I will ask again: why is my argument for changing the title stronger if stopantisemetism were anti-Israel?
Explain how it is not a good title to use the designation of Pro Israel group in the title when the group has the exact same propaganda as the Israeli government
I am not interested in telling you that you have done bad. I am interested in telling you that you could do better. I think this change is an improvement because: