cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/22948152
OS: CachyOS GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Board: MPG B550 GAMING PLUS CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (16) @ 4.43 GHz Memory: 31.26 GiB
i try to keep it short: i have issues with some games (like the witcher 3) and often hear that its an issue with nvidia drivers etc…
So my question is: would a switch / small upgrade to a AMD Radeon 6800 be worth it?
Man, that’s a big lateral move. Honestly, my experience is spotty as well (using mostly Bazzite), and I’m sticking to dual booting for the foreseeable. I definitely would not change hardware for this reason. Especially because, having some installs on AMD-based hardware, my expectation that the issues would drop to zero is… very low.
If you can’t try before you buy I’d only swap to get a meaningful upgrade. Of course when a “meaningful upgrade” will be affordable or accessible in the future is anybody’s guess. Because isn’t tech in the 21st century fun?
Because isn’t tech in the 21st century fun?
I miss tech in the 90s… at least every release saw massive increases in everything but price.
Well, I guess we’re only going to invent the microchip once.
In any case now that I’m… you know, not a kid and can look at 90s tech with some historical data, it wasn’t quite as straightforward as we remember. But then it also didn’t have memory prices spiking by 300% overnight because everybody knows a fake AI bubble is going to pop so they want to sell them a bunch of crap before all the money evaporates but not ramp up production because that money is clearly going to evaporate.
That’s 21st century through and through. 20th century tech would just keep slapping the same Z80 and Motorola 68000 chips on things for a decade. Z80 too slow as your CPU? Maybe it can be your sound chip now. Listen, we have warehouses of these, we’ll keep selling you new ones well into the 2000s, it’s barely a clump of wires held together with chewing gum.
Did you know the 68000 was 10 years old by the time it made it to the Genesis/Megadrive as a CPU? That’d be like the PS5 launching with a single core 2GHz Athlon from 2005. I didn’t know that as a kid.
But then it also didn’t have memory prices spiking by 300% overnight because everybody knows a fake AI bubble is going to pop so they want to sell them a bunch of crap before all the money evaporates but not ramp up production because that money is clearly going to evaporate.
The money is going to evaporate because the money never really existed. Its just a handful of megacorps passing the same few hundred billion dollars around in circles over and over again to create the illusion of value. Its literally the same thing crypto currencies do. Pumping up the value before dumping for massive profit.
and while 7 people are circle jerking their way to trillions of dollars, right wing hate machines across the world are obsessing over AI because it finally lets them create a imaginary world that justifies persecution fetish.
That’s 21st century through and through. 20th century tech would just keep slapping the same Z80 and Motorola 68000 chips on things for a decade. Z80 too slow as your CPU? Maybe it can be your sound chip now. Listen, we have warehouses of these, we’ll keep selling you new ones well into the 2000s, it’s barely a clump of wires held together with chewing gum.
The Z80 only stopped production last year because thats how great of a CPU it was, lol, still useful 50 years later.
Your last sentence made me chuckle and than a bit sad… Anyway i think @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com made very good point in their posting and made me think about the fact that i could invest a lil bit more and have a decent upgrade for my VR.
So I gonna out my old one on eBay and also have a good reason to buy a new one 😅
I dont know what CachyOS is… but if you’re willing to try hardware changing, why not try an OS change first?
Specifically, a change to a gaming focused linux distro (like Nobara, or Bazzite), that comes with a nvidia specific iso?
See if that solves your issue before dropping money on a new card.
Soooo after finishing my popcorn and reading the funny “discussion” between you and captain gatekeeper, here is my real reply.
https://cachyos.org/ its a arch based distro which was recommend by many for gaming. Usually I am a “standard arch” fan but for my living room I wanted a distro wich does not give me so much headache.
I am not used with fedora based distros and also usually I am not a friend of distro hopping, especially when i dont really finished my installation scripts so a new distro would also a pain in the ass to configure 😄
To be honest I think i need to admit that i am ready for an upgrade in my hardware and also search for a reason to buy a NRW GPU, but still wanna consider my options.
Out of curiosity, how hard is the switch to a fedora based Linux if I am usually used to use arch or Debian based distros?
CachyOS is gaming focused though, their GUI has a button to install their gaming meta package. they also package their own Proton which shows up in Steam as a compatibility option.
cyberpunk at least seems to run noticeably better for me on CachyOS than it did on Win11, on exactly the same hardware (5800x3d, rtx 4080)
Ah, well, I don’t know then. Sorry, like I said, I know nothing about CachyOS… but it wouldnt hurt to try, regardless, since switching from nvidia to amd would basically be easiest with a reformat anyway.
You know Nobara & Bazzite but you never heard of the CachyOS?.. Tell me you’re a troll without telling me you’re one.
How dare I suggest someone try save some money by trying a free option first, and not have the full and intimate knowledge of everything in existence.
I shall submit myself to 50 lashings for the egregious sin of not knowing your favorite distro. For give me, lord, for I have sinned most vile.
Well how hope you really do it…
To have the audacity to give me a nice advice without knowing every distro ever. Did you even used Hannah Montana Linux?
50 lashes will be both enough, you gonna use win 11 for two days and I hope you learn from that to not be a nice person on the internet without knowing if there is a new distro!
Fuck off!!! You don’t give suggestion you basically lie to people that you don’t know what CachyOS distro is. You could have clearly said what you wanted but you chose to be an asshole and you don’t get to play the victim card here cunt!
Respectfully, You need to find a good therapist and talk your rage issues out with them, before you snap and do something terrible to a loved one. Please. For your sake, and those around you.
Kindly you need to fuck off with that bullshit and stop lying to people about you not knowing what CachyOS Linux distro is. I don’t know what kind of mental masturbation you do with this kind of bullshit but, you’re not convincing anyone.
If believing I’m lying gets you to go talk to a professional, then sure, I’m lying. I totally know everything about whatever it is.
Ahahaha… Whatever floats your mental masturbation boat.
CachyOS the top distro on distrowatch.com right now.
If things work for you with Nvidia then probably no. But since you mentioned issues, then AMD might help. My gaming box has had an AMD gpu and I don’t remember seeing any problems related to it in at least a year. With Wayland, too.
Are you using the official nvidia drivers?
I’ve switched from 3090 to the XTX few months back because of a really weird and unique bugs in one of my games (but otherwise it worked alright) and for few months had a lot more problems then I had with nvidia, especially with suspend but sometimes it would just crash (Plasma).
I did also switch to Plasma/Wayland with the upgrade so who knows but few kernels/mesa versions back were really bad, it works nicely now though [Arch]
I switched back to x11 because KDE always crashed. Forgot to mention that problem.
Here’s the direct comparison:
https://www.hardwaredb.net/geforce-rtx-3070-vs-radeon-rx-6800
Would it be worth it?
If you’re in the US, looking at US prices (~$520), hellllllll no.
You can get a 9070 (non xt), for almost the same price (~$550), and thats a much, much better GPU, much more performance per dollar.
https://www.hardwaredb.net/radeon-rx-9070-vs-radeon-rx-6800
Or, you could get a 9060 XT (16 GB) for half about half the price (~$270), and still have a probably overall better card in most situations.
https://www.hardwaredb.net/radeon-rx-9060-xt-vs-radeon-rx-6800
And yes, a 9060 XT (16 GB) beats a 3070.
https://www.hardwaredb.net/radeon-rx-9060-xt-vs-geforce-rtx-3070
Double the VRAM, near half the cost, roughly 20% more gigapixel throughout.
Yeah, older model GPUs, the used market, at least in the US?
Pricing is delusional right now.
Apparently nobody got the memo that new, current AMD GPUs, have actually fallen in price a good deal in the last 6 months.
Used in Europe around 200-250€ Forgot to mention that i would buy a used and sell mine.
Also, I hoped for a easy fix, instead of troubleshooting :D
Edit: after reading your post a second time i have to say the following: dammit the world needs more people like you thank you, thank you thank you!!!
I gonna buy the radeon 9060 xt and sell my old one. Nice cheap upgrade :3
Hey, no problem!
Just make A B S O L U T E L Y sure that you get a 16 GB version of the 9060 XT.
AMD did a shitty thing, and released two versions of the 9060XT, one with 8 GB VRAM, one with 16 GB VRAM… but they often have very similar, if not identical names on the packaging, and on online store listings.
Double, Triple, Quadruple check that your 9060 XT is the 16 GB version… don’t get scammed!
But uh yeah, just generally speaking, if you’re already running CachyOS, and you’re fully into Linux Gaming…
AMD is the way to go, they are way way way more open with their drivers than Nvidia, and this just generally results in things working more smoothly.
Also, you could look into OptiScaler, the thing that DeckyFrameGen uses on Steam Decks… basically, there is a whole collections of mods that make it so you can run DLSS on an AMD card, or FSR on an Nvidia card, for a good deal of games… and that works through Proton.
Yeah, an AMD card is probably not gonna run DLSS as well as it runs FSR… but, if you want to try those options, you can.
Its a bit of a procedure to follow though, maybe comparable to doing ENB injection mods back in the day, its a bit more involved than a typical mod that just alters some content in the game.
i switched from rtx 2060 to 5700 xt just a few weeks ago, and a bunch of things run well that barely could before. i was mostly concerned with the forza horizons, they run perfectly now
however there are some issues, mplayer/mpv shows a blue screen on most output drivers, and steamvr just crashes, so there are things to figure out (suggestions are welcome)
(btw i played w3 for a bit before on nvidia, and i had no issues, just to complicate things)
I think the only sane thing i would do is to reinstall the distro… But maybe you should open a new thread? People are very nice here and I bet somebody can help you with a better solution than me :3
If you’re playing Witcher 3 with the RTX on and the next-gen update then it’s probably your VRAM limiting you.
The witcher was just an example. I got a lot of crashes in KDE plasma, for that reason I switched to back to xfce.
https://www.protondb.com/app/292030
Seems to generally work OK with Nvidia, but you may want to try Proton experimental or GE.
If you search 3070 one user also using NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 seems to have it running out of the box with only a minor glitch.
But there seems to be a pretty heavy overweight of Radeon users. But IDK if we can draw any conclusions from that?
The game has platinum status, so it ought to work on a decent GPU/system like yours.I’ve had no issues with nVidia GPU and TW3, running it with protonGE 9.26. Try that first if you haven’t already
The witcher was just an example, hoped for an easy fix for example the dead space female had some stutters too. But i think i gonna check the configs and post them wehen I am back in town
Understood. I mentioned TW3 because I found it to be very anal about Proton versions, but I’ve never had any problems that could be attributed to nVidia with any games I’ve played. I ran the official, close-source drivers
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I play games (resource intensive and on max settings) on a 7800 and they all run just fine with Linux Mint.
