• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    The truth is that the strength of a democracy has little relation to the birth rate. If you live in the US, for example, you only live in a democracy if your income is in the top 10%. This has actually been studied. The opinions of the poorest 90% of the population have absolutely zero bearing on what government policy is implemented.

    The US and China actually have similar levels of democracy. China forms all its policies from the CCP, an organization of about 100 million people. The share of the population in China that has any impact on policy is actually quite similar to the share that does the same in the US.

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      It’s true. The very poor people I’ve known in the US have believed that “the system is rigged” and they have little freedom and no voice. They believe they are exploited by powers far beyond their ability to challenge and the last way any of it would ever change is through voting, which they see as an empty, farcical gesture.

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
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      While you are correct, taking a piss poor example of democracy against another piss poor example of democracy doesn’t really explain anything. I said authoritarian regime, I stand by that.

        • Miaou@jlai.lu
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          All the ones in Europe (if you count them as democratic obviously)

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            I think you’re imagining that statistics, because they do not. But hey, let’s check. Name three European countries that have population replacement birth levels.

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            No, but your comment implies it would be higher, even if that wasn’t your intention.

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              19 hours ago

              Do you want to discuss things with the public, or do you want to debate the voices in your head and the things they told you I said.