Children as young as 11 who demonstrate misogynistic behaviour will be taught the difference between pornography and real relationships, as part of a multimillion-pound investment to tackle misogyny in England’s schools, the Guardian understands.

On the eve of the government publishing its long-awaited strategy to halve violence against women and girls (VAWG) in a decade, David Lammy told the Guardian that the battle “begins with how we raise our boys”, adding that toxic masculinity and keeping girls and women safe were “bound together”.

As part of the government’s flagship strategy, which was initially expected in the spring, teachers will be able to send young people at risk of causing harm on behavioural courses, and will be trained to intervene if they witness disturbing or worrying behaviour.

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    It’s in the article and it’s very good. You should read it.

    Preventing young men being harmed by “manosphere” influencers such as Andrew Tate.

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      That was one line in a whole article focusing on knowing porn isn’t realistic and whatnot… I just feel like if they had any hard moral beliefs (could be as simple and basic as the Ten Commandments, idk), they could build on them, this feels very inefficient.

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          That should be the default position for everything, including education and law making.

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          Let’s be real, they’re mainly decorative in the West. You don’t BELIEVE in them, and if you could without believing in God then (some) Western societies wouldn’t be imperialistic, militaristic, materialistic, hedonistically nihilistic “societies” of amoral, lonely strangers. It doesn’t work, hence people like Andrew Tate are still allowed to have any sort of reach/exposure and porn is even a thing, just legal and everywhere. And American kids keep dying in schools while brown people get legally kidnapped and they are mostly “meh” about the whole thing one way or another because football is still on/Wicked 2 just came out…

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            The world would be a better place if we worshipped Satan.

            Hail Satan, the source of all knowledge, pleasure, and achievement, the antithesis of god, religion, and puritanical bullshit.

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              The West already does, lol, at least in practice. Can’t follow God and just go around murdering, raping, pillaging all willy nilly, and let’s not forget their nihilistic hedonism, extreme selfishness, resistance to self-restraint, etc. 🤷

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            It’s almost like religion isn’t a good replacement for morals and personal values. Who could have imagined that?

            I have no idea why you thought this was a good place to start a theological discussion; but this is about porn and young men. There isn’t anything magical about this, it’s actually one of the base, most human topics and young men have been talking about sex amongst themselves since language was put to use. I don’t see any place for you or anyone to inject dogma into it.

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              Religion is not a replacement but the foundation for those very moral beliefs, lol. And it’s not a theological discussion, I just put out a basic set of moral tenets one can live their life through, perhaps I should’ve mentioned “the golden rule” or something like that (even if it is part of Jesus’ message too, lol). Regardless, the point is the following: whatever values the West claims to believe is never actualized into actions (freedom whilst enslaving the world, enlightenment whilst being the most legally and culturally accepted degenerate and hedonistic folks, equality while… LOL) and that’s the core of the issue, you guys don’t actually believe in anything (generally speaking, I’m sure some of you will feel attacked but if it’s not you, you know your neighbour, else MAGA and Tommy Robinson and all that shit simply wouldn’t exist) and as such your values are decorative at best, a spin usually. And maybe getting into righteous monotheism (if your religion comes from the Romans fucking with the Abrahamic faith, this isn’t your case and never has been) could be the solution. But if you figure out a way to continue being essentially nihilists (what do you collectively believe in?! Can I say that Americans think greed is a sin, for instance? Jesus thought so but the society reflects the opposite, so what exactly do y’all believe in?!) but with deep moral understandings and a strong desire to do good and avoid evil, let me know!

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                Maybe the issues is they do believe in the bible and christianity? This is the religion that wiped out any others that were not aligned with it’s specific message and goals. It absorbed it’s morals, rituals and holidays from the others it destroyed. I mean, there was a fucking inquisition! Crusades. How many have been murdered by not following the ‘law of god’ or not being in the ‘right’ religion? Is it really morally right to treat and trade women like possessions or farm animals? To kill the firstborn of everyone who disagrees? ‘Oh, we dont follow that part anymore, we cherry pick what we want to use and believe in.’

                It does not take religion to have morals. Being religious doctrine, does not make a thing moral.

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                  They don’t believe in the words shared by Moses (“thou shalt not kill”) or Jesus for instance, which in theory are some of the ideological pillars of their faith, so what do they believe in? I’m telling you, every one of these power hungry psychopaths in the West that are all for “Christian values” are the biggest hypocrites (and you already knew that), but those who follow them are completely misguided, reluctant to take life and God’s judgment seriously, and complicit in differing degrees to the unhealthiness and immorality of their societies.

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            God is also decorative in the West. The most religious people in the West are also imperialistic, militaristic, materialistic, hedonistically nihilistic “societies” of amoral, lonely strangers. Clearly the problem isn’t cultural, it’s something more fundamental.

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              Which religion? What do they believe in? Certainly not the words of Jesus, the anti-imperialistic proto-feminist monotheist preacher of peace and righteousness, lol. The problem is sociocultural, the West hasn’t gone through their character arc, going from raiders, pillagers and murderers to the same but with tanks and bombs, and of course the Paulian Trinitarian, “faith without acts” nonsense that we call Roman Catholicism which was pushed by the powers that be at the time and is the basis for what remained in the West as a religion could never change that. This is like dating one abusive, gaslighting man and thinking that’s all love can be!

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                They certainly think they’re Christians.

                Society and culture are downstream from the material conditions, and under the current material conditions the wealth and prosperity of society is built on the back of superexploitation, war, theft, slavery, and genocide. The kind of culture produced by empire can’t be moral, it doesn’t matter their religion or lack of religion. All moral positions are hollow under imperialism.

                You aren’t going to end imperialism, militarism, materialism etc by just changing the society or the culture. It’s the exact opposite. You can only change society and culture by ending imperialism, militarism, materialism, etc etc. This is always the kind of society and culture that would have been produced by advanced capitalism, religion is entirely irrelevant.