I think I’m making a good point. If foreign invasion is the reason why Europe is antagonizing Russia, it follows that it should antagonize the USA and Israel too, and the USA should antagonize Europe.
If this doesn’t hold, then the original point of Europe antagonizing Russia over invasion of a country doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
firstly, starting with the assumption that ‘Europe is antagonizing Russia’ is begging the question. that hasn’t been shown.
secondly, Europe’s response to Russia’s imperialist aggression is independent of their response to other instances of imperialist aggression. one could say that Europe has a more vested interest because it’s in their neighborhood, for example.
Europe not applying that standard equally across the board doesn’t negate the possibility that they are reacting to imperialist aggression.
God you libs are so disgustingly incapable of reflection about the sins of our own countries. Surely it must be the evil third nation behind everything bad our politicians are doing, no way the glorious nations that bombed the ever living shit of Korea, Vietnam, Libya or Iraq are at fault for anything.
Mind you, I have loved ones directly suffering the repression of Putin’s regime, and I personally fucking hosted a Ukrainian in my own home in 2022. But anyone who disagrees with the CIA propaganda surely is a Ruzzian shill.
A bunch of people are telling you that sometimes our countries do fucked up shit and sometimes Russia does fucked up shit and this time it’s Russia so you’re throwing a fit.
no way the glorious nations…are at fault for anything
We complain about the fucked up shit our countries do all the time. It’s why no one who’s paying attention thinks you’re arguing in good faith.
We complain about the fucked up shit our countries do all the time
Go look for a post on .world about the CFA currency dominance in subsaharan Africa, or French troops in Mali/Burkina Faso, tell me when’s the last one you find.
Why do you always bring this up? We are talking about a specific thing here. Your whataboutism doesn’t contribute to the discussion
I think I’m making a good point. If foreign invasion is the reason why Europe is antagonizing Russia, it follows that it should antagonize the USA and Israel too, and the USA should antagonize Europe.
If this doesn’t hold, then the original point of Europe antagonizing Russia over invasion of a country doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
your conclusion does not follow from the premise.
Care to elaborate?
ok, there’s a couple of things wrong here.
firstly, starting with the assumption that ‘Europe is antagonizing Russia’ is begging the question. that hasn’t been shown.
secondly, Europe’s response to Russia’s imperialist aggression is independent of their response to other instances of imperialist aggression. one could say that Europe has a more vested interest because it’s in their neighborhood, for example.
Europe not applying that standard equally across the board doesn’t negate the possibility that they are reacting to imperialist aggression.
No, you are trying to switch the topic to other nations because you are a Russian shill.
Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about how Putin is akin to a hot dog.
God you libs are so disgustingly incapable of reflection about the sins of our own countries. Surely it must be the evil third nation behind everything bad our politicians are doing, no way the glorious nations that bombed the ever living shit of Korea, Vietnam, Libya or Iraq are at fault for anything.
Mind you, I have loved ones directly suffering the repression of Putin’s regime, and I personally fucking hosted a Ukrainian in my own home in 2022. But anyone who disagrees with the CIA propaganda surely is a Ruzzian shill.
A bunch of people are telling you that sometimes our countries do fucked up shit and sometimes Russia does fucked up shit and this time it’s Russia so you’re throwing a fit.
We complain about the fucked up shit our countries do all the time. It’s why no one who’s paying attention thinks you’re arguing in good faith.
Go look for a post on .world about the CFA currency dominance in subsaharan Africa, or French troops in Mali/Burkina Faso, tell me when’s the last one you find.
Your positions are correct, but it seems like you’re trying to deflect from the topic at hand. See red herring
I’m not deflecting, I’m doing the testing of a hypothesis.
Hypothesis: Europe is antagonizing Russia because it invaded a foreign independent nation
Counterexample: Europe keeps befriending Israel and the USA despite numerous cases of them invading foreign independent nations
Conclusion: the hypothesis doesn’t hold
Your argument doesn’t follow a valid syllogistic structure. You’re attempt to clarify still follows a red herring pattern.
The only way to counter the premise:
would be to show that Russia isn’t doing so. Russia IS doing so, so it is a correct argument. Any other argument you introduce is a red herring.