The handles themselves freeze down and won’t pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.
Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.
That doesn’t follow. The 3 and y both have mechanical handles that only close flush by a spring for aerodynamics. Literally every manufacturer has copied that in at least one model.
Only the s, x, and CT have retractable handles, and it’s mostly Chinese cars that copy that.
These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don’t want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.
Yeah, it’s hard. How is it going to come out while there’s nothing to grab on to?
E: I dunno who’s downvoting me or why. I’m vehemently opposed to electronic door handles of any kind. But if you’re going to have door handles that protrude and retract, they’re gonna have to necessarily have a motor to push out against ice.
For the model 3 and Y with the mechanical handles you press on one end to get the other to pop out
If it’s iced over, you can press on the other end and there’s a little room to effectively rock it back and forth a bit to break the ice. I live in Massachusetts, I park outside, and this is my third winter with the car, and I’ve only had to do this twice. It worked each time with minimal effort
I have no idea what the model s and x do with the electronic self-presenting handles. They ought to have a defroster or some sort of vibrator to do similar. Not that it would help in an accident
Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?
Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.
The handles themselves freeze down and won’t pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.
Why do need this in the first place? So a 2 ton SUV can be 0.0058% more aerodynamic?
Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.
Yeah I’m not shocked the major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.
Give that to a team of 90’s Honda engineers and they’d have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.
Oh those Honda engineers would have laughed and laughed. “Aluminum chassis and plastic body support?!” I can hear them say through hysterics.
Yeah, the style at the time was “rust chassis and paint is body support” tbh
Aluminum chassis is the one thing I ain’t gonna give Tesla any shit about.
That doesn’t follow. The 3 and y both have mechanical handles that only close flush by a spring for aerodynamics. Literally every manufacturer has copied that in at least one model.
Only the s, x, and CT have retractable handles, and it’s mostly Chinese cars that copy that.
Isn’t the CT a button with an electronic door popper? Where did I read that?
They are not mechanical.
You’re both right: this is where we need more precise language
Model 3 and Y, most Teslas, have mechanical handles. However all Teslas have an electronic latch mechanism
The handles are not mechanically connected to anything. They’re just a really weird button that you can use to pull the door open.
These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don’t want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.
Yeah, it’s hard. How is it going to come out while there’s nothing to grab on to?
E: I dunno who’s downvoting me or why. I’m vehemently opposed to electronic door handles of any kind. But if you’re going to have door handles that protrude and retract, they’re gonna have to necessarily have a motor to push out against ice.
For the model 3 and Y with the mechanical handles you press on one end to get the other to pop out
If it’s iced over, you can press on the other end and there’s a little room to effectively rock it back and forth a bit to break the ice. I live in Massachusetts, I park outside, and this is my third winter with the car, and I’ve only had to do this twice. It worked each time with minimal effort
I have no idea what the model s and x do with the electronic self-presenting handles. They ought to have a defroster or some sort of vibrator to do similar. Not that it would help in an accident
You press on it, tons of Chinese cars already do this.
How does it come out when you press on it?
The lever point is offset such that when you press on the taller part of the handle, the front pops out and you can pull.
They freeze quite solid in icy conditions. It’s really remarkable!
Yeah that’s where I was going with this…
You press it in and it pops out.
Idk I’m not a mechanical engineer.
why did i find this so funny
With a fucking spring.
That’s not how fucking springs work.
Fucking springs can expand and contract.
Fucking springs expand and contract a specific distance, they do not expand indefinitely…