https://archive.is/nJY1g

Chinese automakers are set to take the top spot in global new vehicle sales for the first time in 2025, knocking Japanese players, which held the position for more than 20 years, to second place.

Japan’s lead over China – which stood at around 8 million units in 2022 – has been erased in just three years.

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    11 hours ago

    Doesn’t matter how good they make them if they go out of business because they don’t sell what the world wants. Honda and Nissan are already collapsing. Even Toyota has dropped about 4%.

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      So should they cut quality, cut safety regulations, use slave labor, cut environmental regulations, and dump all their tax dollars into subsidizing your car purchase in order to put themselves on more equal footing with China? You’re advocating for a race to the bottom so that you can consume more cheap junk.

      If you want to see the result of beliefs such as yours, we can once again look to Walmart and what it has done to the local economy of every single rural community that it has moved into.

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        You are missing the point, how about they just make a good EV? BMW seems to be able to build good ones, why can’t the Japanese?

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          You literally just said “it doesnt matter how good they make them.” If they did have a good EV, you’d complain that it was too expensive. If they cut the cost and quality, you’d complain that it wasn’t worth buying. They can’t beat China at this game without using all the same tricks I mentioned in my previous comment. Nobody in the world can do that.

          Why do they need a good EV at this very moment? Worldwide, EVs only make up 20% of new car sales. Their hybrids outsell EVs 3 to 1 here in the US. They’re about to release their solid state batteries and manufacture EVs this coming year with double the range of the current technology. They’ve also been exploring additional alternatives such as hydrogen fuel cells. What’s the rush, exactly? How is that “having their heads buried in the sand?”

          Are you arguing that they would be better suited to have dumped tens of billions of dollars trying to “keep up with the Jones’s” by developing the same bleeding edge technology in parallel with everyone else? Would they be kings of the automotive world witn something like the Nissan Leaf in their fleet? I seriously doubt it.

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            Because it doesn’t matter if they are good or not, if they don’t build ANY was my point. And solid state battery LOL’s, Toyota has been saying that for 10 years.

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              They do build some- the bZ4x, Murai, and Prius plug-in. See you will complain regardless of what they do.

              And solid state battery LOL’s, Toyota has been saying that for 10 years.

              They’ve been saying what for 10 years?