• ModCen@feddit.uk
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    4 days ago

    Maduro seemed like a dictator to me, but I don’t know if unilaterally removing him from Venezuela by force is the best option. Ideally Venezuelans would decide for themselves who they want their leader to be.

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      4 days ago

      They tried, but the last two elections were massively fraudulent, and it’s hard to have a revolution when the army is behind the regime.

      But this isn’t the solution. As my Venezuelan friend said:

      But ok, maduro captured, and theeeeen? Not like he’s the only one. Delcy Rodriguez, Jorge Rodriguez, Diosdado Cabello, General Padrino Lopez, and there are 200+ more people that need capturing

      • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world
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        There’s also a massive fraud behind the fraud: there was a huge fake polling and disinformation campaign designed to make it look like there’s more support for the capitalists and right wingers than there is. Like…yes…the election was fake…but where the fuck are these 80% support for his opponent numbers coming from? None of these numbers match what’s on the street.

        If you dig through the bullshit…elections would be close…far from the landslides either side promise.

        All that we’ve learned here is that in Latin America the USA really really doesn’t like losing its investments. A lesson we already learned 20 times. Soon most of it will just be Puero Rico with less influence.

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        4 days ago

        Now it’s going to be a Civil War, and we will back whichever side will allow Trump to take control of the oil.

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      4 days ago

      You can read history to know without a doubt it is a terrible idea for Venezuelans

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      4 days ago

      This isn’t about what is best for them, it’s what’s is best for the few USA private interests.

      Venezuelans wouldn’t choose hard USA dictated capitalism (even if they purged all politicians and start completely anew) and this war is there to change that.

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        The ONLY thing this is about is Trump taking control of the Vemzuelan oil fields, the largest oil reserves on the planet. He wants to be the equal of the Saudi Royal Family, and stealing the planets largest oil reserves will do that for him.

        He doesn’t care about drugs, he just PARDONED the ex-prez of Honduras, who was convicted in an American court, and was serving decades in an American prison, for doing the exact same thing of which he is accusing Maduro.

        This about Oil. Nothing else.

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          4 days ago

          Always has been.

          That or the first stage of colonising the rest of Americas (Cuba, Colombia, Mexico, … Canada?, etc).

          Or just all the things of ‘why not’, it’s not like morals are keeping anyone awake.

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            Well, he did invoke the Monroe Doctrine in his speech today, even though he has no idea who Monroe is, or what the Monroe Doctrine is. It was supposed to claim America from coast to coast, but Trump is going claim the entire Western Hemisphere.

            I also saw him get excited when Rubio mentioned the $50 million reward for Maduro. I give it 24 hours before Trump claims he should get the $50 million reward because he ordered the operation.

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      4 days ago

      Are you 8 years old?

      The US will install an 80s style military government. I would be more worried about being able to decide your leader in 2028.