Hey guys, it’s Canada, over here on the far shore… see me waving?
Hey, yeah…we uhh are in need of some new friends that we can trust. We’ve got lots of stuff over here. We’ve been mostly cool. We gave our all in the last two big dust ups.
Not to put the pressure on but we seem to be running out of runway.
There’s nothing like living though Brexit to make you truly appreciate how terrible an idea it was.
And yet plenty of people have somehow still not realised
I wonder if there’s something about the English language that makes it’s speakers more susceptible to Russian propaganda somehow.
Yes, and that thing is that English is the leading language for international communication, so Russia has plenty people that speak and write English well.
Allegedly they tried to manipulate an election in France too, but the French of the Russian agents was so horrible, that the French could spot it immediately.
Having the international language of choice is a big vulnerability in this situation.
Nah, British exceptionalism is a thing.
It probably has the best translation tooling. On top of that, they even learn it as their second language.
But I don’t think that’s a major factor. The UK always had special privileges within the EU and was probably just the most susceptible major country for the idea of leaving.
But I don’t think that’s a major factor. The UK always had special privileges within the EU and was probably just the most susceptible major country for the idea of leaving.
This is what is frustrating to me. There were always loads of news articles saying how the EU were making us do something or preventing us from doing something else. They ignored the fact that the UK was involved in all of those decisions and had a greater influence over them than many other EU member states.
It’s not that.
The twitter bots knew to talk about Spitfires over Dover and “sovereignty”, whatever that is.
The older people fell for it because they hark back to “better times” when they had post WW2 rationing and no repercussions for their colonial past, like non-whites running the local supermarket.
It’s more basic than you think.
In his eyes, the greatest symbiotic parasite man has ever known isn’t microbial but linguistics. Words are what keep civilization, our world alive. Save the world not by taking mens lives but by taking their tongues.
The English parasite has long since replaced local languages in most places as the Lingua Franca. Certainly if you want to do business internationally, you’d used English.
However if you think of the English language as the vector or medium of infection and certain “ideas” as a virus, its no wonder that such misinformation can be spread wildly everywhere all at once.
The only solution is to stop using it…
“Sans Lingua Franca. The world will be torn asunder and then, it shall be free.”
The grass is always greener on the other side, until you realize the problem is that capitalism doesn’t work.
Farage and his ilk need to become a fringe curiosity before the UK should be reconsidered for EU membership IMO. Big up Zack Polanski, though. I’d vote for him in my own county.
I mean the EU member countries have their fair share of anti EU mainstream politicians. They are far from a curiosity these days.
The issue isn’t anti-EU politicians once it’s in good faith. Von Der Leyen & Co. are rotten IMO, and are complicit in genocide for not using every lever at their disposal to sanction Israel like they rightly did Russia.
It’s the bad faith, Kremlin-linked obstructionists howling at the moon about invented issues that are impossible to deal with and spread the most disinformation. Hungary should be jettisoned too, IMO, if they can’t change leadership soon.
Mate, Bardella, Meloni, and the AfD are all right wing nuts. I’m sorry, putting the UK in the same bin as Hungary just because Farage lives here is nonsense.
Both Russian assets, so it’s a fair comparison. He’s considered possibly the next PM by a few commentators I trust. If he isn’t, the current PM is still a genocide enabler. And the media landscape is worsening in the UK.
By all means have more dismantlists in the EU if you like, but it’s an obvious net negative in my view.
I would like new (or returning) members to provide genuine EU criticism that challwnges the hypocrisy and collusion regarding genocide, and calling out of the roll back of environmental standards. The general neoliberal mindset there makes me very uneasy. Russian assets aren’t going to help with any of that and neither will a neoliberal.
What part of what I said entitles you to imply I would want more “enablists” in the EU? I am asking because if we’ve misunderstood each other that badly then we might need to calibrate a bit. For context: I’m a UK citizen, who wanted to remain despite having misgivings about the EU (from a leftist perspective, ie neoliberalism, the nature of NATO etc.) I still think we should rejoin ASAP even if it means a worse deal than we had.
I think the next election here is looking like it will be fought between Polanski and Farage. If we get Polanski (and I sincerely hope we do) then you will get your EU - friendly, socialist leader of Britain, for whatever that will be worth at that point. It’s still four years away and the situation at the moment is volatile internationally. I don’t expect there to be any meaningful change quickly enough to make a difference, probably. But it’s nice to hope.
The broad sweep looks like the current world order is shifting very quickly, and the genocide enabling of the people who were supposed to be the good guys is a big part of that. Unfortunately it looks like that’s just causing even worse guys to get hold of power.
I would like to see the poll results after a hypothetical Frexit. As much as people bitch about how restrictive the EU is on countries and how much the bigger countries support the smaller countries, most of them forget how much of a pain in the ass it was before.
I feel like Brexiters might have a more informed opinion on the benefits of being part of the EU.
Be that as it may, I heard Farage is still running around and poisoning the public again. No rejoining will happen unless this chap be headed elsewhere, or the bloody circus comes back to town and we’re all really sad again.
Can we just fucking get on with it and kill all the fascists and the rich already?
Indeed, I think they would at this point.
But they’re sure as shit not keeping the pound sterling if they try to rejoin. That was a one-time deal.
Would also be a good time to switch to the metric system and right-hand traffic.
