• FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.world
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    Farage and his ilk need to become a fringe curiosity before the UK should be reconsidered for EU membership IMO. Big up Zack Polanski, though. I’d vote for him in my own county.

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      I mean the EU member countries have their fair share of anti EU mainstream politicians. They are far from a curiosity these days.

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        The issue isn’t anti-EU politicians once it’s in good faith. Von Der Leyen & Co. are rotten IMO, and are complicit in genocide for not using every lever at their disposal to sanction Israel like they rightly did Russia.

        It’s the bad faith, Kremlin-linked obstructionists howling at the moon about invented issues that are impossible to deal with and spread the most disinformation. Hungary should be jettisoned too, IMO, if they can’t change leadership soon.

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          Mate, Bardella, Meloni, and the AfD are all right wing nuts. I’m sorry, putting the UK in the same bin as Hungary just because Farage lives here is nonsense.

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            Both Russian assets, so it’s a fair comparison. He’s considered possibly the next PM by a few commentators I trust. If he isn’t, the current PM is still a genocide enabler. And the media landscape is worsening in the UK.

            By all means have more dismantlists in the EU if you like, but it’s an obvious net negative in my view.

            I would like new (or returning) members to provide genuine EU criticism that challwnges the hypocrisy and collusion regarding genocide, and calling out of the roll back of environmental standards. The general neoliberal mindset there makes me very uneasy. Russian assets aren’t going to help with any of that and neither will a neoliberal.

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              What part of what I said entitles you to imply I would want more “enablists” in the EU? I am asking because if we’ve misunderstood each other that badly then we might need to calibrate a bit. For context: I’m a UK citizen, who wanted to remain despite having misgivings about the EU (from a leftist perspective, ie neoliberalism, the nature of NATO etc.) I still think we should rejoin ASAP even if it means a worse deal than we had.

              I think the next election here is looking like it will be fought between Polanski and Farage. If we get Polanski (and I sincerely hope we do) then you will get your EU - friendly, socialist leader of Britain, for whatever that will be worth at that point. It’s still four years away and the situation at the moment is volatile internationally. I don’t expect there to be any meaningful change quickly enough to make a difference, probably. But it’s nice to hope.

              The broad sweep looks like the current world order is shifting very quickly, and the genocide enabling of the people who were supposed to be the good guys is a big part of that. Unfortunately it looks like that’s just causing even worse guys to get hold of power.