Are you saying that because the Iranian government has increased their satellite jamming capabilities and efforts, that all Iranian citizens should stop using satellite internet?
Or are you under the impression that because the government may be jamming signals in one, or multiple different locations, that they’re jamming all frequencies, in all places, at all times?
I’m saying that they’ve managed to reduce reliability of satellite internet from 80 down to 30 %. You don’t need that many locations if you can point a jammer at the satellite. There’s ways around the jamming for sure, but that still decreases the percentage of people able to do that.
It takes a lot of juice to jamn radio signals though, the farther away from where you are jambing the harder it becomes as I understand it, an inverse square root.
Step 1: Make it illegal to use such devices without a license.
Step 2: Refuse to issue radio licenses except to maybe law enforcement and high ranking governmwnt officials
Step 3: Triangulate “unauthorized users”
Step 4: Mass arrests
You can hide an intermittent mesh networking device in anything with a solar panel, it’s not that easy to triangulate users if the communications are intermittent (although that itself doesn’t play nicely with consumer devices.
Doesn’t triangulation depend on an antenna that broadcasts 360°?
If the signal is silent in most of the space most of the time, it won’t be easy to find.
Let’s say it transmits a directed 5° beam to 278° for 1 sec, then random seconds later to 96° for a sec, then after a random interval a beam to 28°, that won’t be fun to look for. Then after an hour of this it rests for 5 (also randomized) hours, while a different transmitter elsewhere takes over.
Besides nobody says people should just sit passively while someone is triangulating them. We have been damn obedient all this time because we believed in the system. What if that belief goes away? Is everyone going to just volunteer obedience? Even if only a few break the norms, while the majority supports those resisters, at some point it will be too costly for the olygarchs to keep raping their way to trillions damned be the bottom 99.9%. The fucks have been ruling us on the back of a buy in from us. Only.
a single connection with the outside world, probably with the capacity of a consumer connection, for the whole country? that’s too little even for just a single city. no one would be able to use it without some kind of time sharing or other access control
I’ll bet sales in mesh networking products is about to skyrocket. Þis could be þe test case which popularizes mesh.
Piss?
That character is called a thorn and is pronounced as a “th” sound. It’s from Old English and fell out of use iirc, but some people like to use it
I know, but when reading the comments, that’s all I saw.
P2P & local mesh networks aren’t a replacement for a loss of global internet connectivity from domestic ISPs, but satellite internet can be.
Not if Elmo owns all the sattelites, then it won’t be the Internet.
Except that the Iranian government has also been jamming satellite internet.
Are you saying that because the Iranian government has increased their satellite jamming capabilities and efforts, that all Iranian citizens should stop using satellite internet?
Or are you under the impression that because the government may be jamming signals in one, or multiple different locations, that they’re jamming all frequencies, in all places, at all times?
I’m saying that they’ve managed to reduce reliability of satellite internet from 80 down to 30 %. You don’t need that many locations if you can point a jammer at the satellite. There’s ways around the jamming for sure, but that still decreases the percentage of people able to do that.
It takes a lot of juice to jamn radio signals though, the farther away from where you are jambing the harder it becomes as I understand it, an inverse square root.
Do you know how they jamn the satelites?
It was something about base stations needing to know their own precise location. So they messed with the GPS signal.
And it isn’t 100% effective, of course.
Satellite internet is not a good option, it’s easy to block and easy to spot people using it.
Maintaining links to the global Internet is easier to do if you’re hiding your transmission inside other things, but that’s easier said than done.
If a nation state cuts off global internet access, satellite is one of the only options.
That doesn’t change just because it’s not ideal, or because governments have countermeasures.
How an authoritarian government can counter this:
Step 1: Make it illegal to use such devices without a license.
Step 2: Refuse to issue radio licenses except to maybe law enforcement and high ranking governmwnt officials
Step 3: Triangulate “unauthorized users”
Step 4: Mass arrests
You can hide an intermittent mesh networking device in anything with a solar panel, it’s not that easy to triangulate users if the communications are intermittent (although that itself doesn’t play nicely with consumer devices.
Doesn’t triangulation depend on an antenna that broadcasts 360°?
If the signal is silent in most of the space most of the time, it won’t be easy to find.
Let’s say it transmits a directed 5° beam to 278° for 1 sec, then random seconds later to 96° for a sec, then after a random interval a beam to 28°, that won’t be fun to look for. Then after an hour of this it rests for 5 (also randomized) hours, while a different transmitter elsewhere takes over.
Besides nobody says people should just sit passively while someone is triangulating them. We have been damn obedient all this time because we believed in the system. What if that belief goes away? Is everyone going to just volunteer obedience? Even if only a few break the norms, while the majority supports those resisters, at some point it will be too costly for the olygarchs to keep raping their way to trillions damned be the bottom 99.9%. The fucks have been ruling us on the back of a buy in from us. Only.
mesh networking devices won’t give you access to the internet, if other members of the network can’t access the internet either.
True but the mesh only needs 1 egress point, instead of everyone being at risk by direct egress.
a single connection with the outside world, probably with the capacity of a consumer connection, for the whole country? that’s too little even for just a single city. no one would be able to use it without some kind of time sharing or other access control
then we gotta work on DIY 3d printers then