My elderly mum has a Roku Express attached to a dumb 1080p TV, but it’s experiencing ever more frequent “insufficient power” failures and she’s thinking of buying a new one.
I’m wondering if there’s a freer alternative device that would be just as, if not more, user-friendly. Any tips? (I’ve been browsing Temu but no idea what to pick.)
Must haves:
- replaces the Roku
- allows her to watch OTT channels like Netflix and Prime (not pirated, she has legit accounts for those two), Youtube, Haystack etc
- all done with a user-friendly remote control & 3-metre interface
Nice to haves:
- replaces also the laptop (connected to the TV but basically unused)
- can get & watch Bittorrent downloads
- can watch IPTV (nothing fancy like debrid, just IPTV-org channels or some such)
- makes Bittorrent downloads & IPTV a more integral, easier part of the experience so that she actually uses & enjoys them
- reduces/eliminates ads on Prime, Youtube etc
CONTEXT
She uses the Roku for watching mainly Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Haystack (news), very occasionally TheArchive.TV, FreeMoviesPlus, Plex, Roku Channel (just one show).
I also installed IOTV, a Roku app with IPTV-org linear channels, but she never remembers it, and it’s not very user-friendly anyway.
I also set up an old laptop for her, with QBittorrent on it, connected to the TV, but she never actually uses it unless I come round and download/play stuff.
PS I have no experience with “-arr” stack, Jellyfin, VPS, debrid etc.
PPS in case it’s relevant, location is Mexico.
you want a onn tv box from walmart. it’s $20. $40 for the pro version (which does perform better). combine that with stremio and projectivity launcher and that will give you pretty much everything you’re asking for.
It’s geolocked to the U.S., so it’s important to note that they would need to use a VPN to bypass it during setup.
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Thanks for the info.
Having set three of them up in Europe myself, as far as I can tell the VPN is only needed one time to set up the Onn 4K Pro (or any of the other Onn Android TV boxes). After that, a VPN shouldn’t be needed unless the device is reset.
Note that Stremio, SmartTube, and Projectify Launcher work on any Android TV device (versus Amazon Fire TV, which blocks Projectify Launcher), so you can get a non-Onn brand one to avoid the initial setup hassle. I personally preferred spending a bit more to get 3GB of RAM and 32GB to ensure a smooth experience, but the same apps will work on 2GB RAM devices too (like the similarly geolocked $US20 Onn 4K and $US30 Onn 4K Plus).
Ah, I misunderstood. Thanks.
Unplugging and replugging them doesn’t trigger the location check, only if you perform a factory reset.
As long as the free VPN has a U.S. IP address, it should work. Proton VPN has the U.S. as an option on its free tier, for instance. To use it on the Onn 4K device during setup, you’d either need a router that sends all traffic through the VPN, or to tether the VPN from another device.
Since the Onn 4K Pro has an Ethernet port, I tethered the device to my Windows laptop to share its VPN signal (requires configuration of the Ethernet settings). An alternative for the non-Ethernet devices seems to be via a hotspot, either with Windows or rooted Android. Should rooting Android not be an option, this post claims it’s possible to do without rooting.
Thanks for all that great info!
ATM I can only find the Onn Stick on the usual sites here. WIll keep looking for the box.
Should you need it for later, here’s the first few steps after you have the Onn device (or an alternative Google TV device) in hand. The links included are guides for the steps.
For the VPN process (if you choose an Onn device), I remember having problems with the wireless hotspot method that led me to do the ethernet option instead, but either should work. If you choose to install LineageOS, I unfortunately don’t have experience doing that, but that would come before app installations.
If you are using an Onn 4K device, it should have a mappable star button that can only be configured while using the default launcher. I personally chose to map the TV’s input switch function to it, but this step should occur before setting Projectivy Launcher as the default.
Next, you would install the Downloader app via the Google Play Store. Not ideal to have to use the Google Play Store for any installation, but at least all subsequent apps can be install via Downloader instead.
Using Downloader, you can now install and configure Projectivy Launcher. This also involves installing the Launcher Manager helper app to configure the default launcher, giving you the option to return to the default if need be. While you can try uninstalling all the bloatware that comes with the device, some of it might come back with updates (though presumedly not an issue if you install LineageOS). Should that occur, you can instead disable the apps in the Android settings or hide them from the Projectivy Launcher menu. The hiding apps feature is also useful for hiding apps such as Downloader and Launcher Manager after setup, as they’re not regularly needed. Ensure you enable the override home button setting to make the button send you to Projectivy Launcher instead.
Stremio is available on Google Play again for now, but you can alternatively install it via Downloader too. SmartTube is of course not available on the Google Play Store, but can be easily installed via Downloader too. It has many configuration options for its UI and as an in-app self-updating function.
Alternatively to Downloader, you can also install a file manager app and install APK files manually. Devices like the Onn 4K Pro let you expand the device’s storage with a USB drive to transfer files or load external media, though apps such as atvTools (Android/iOS) let you send files wirelessly to the device’s internal storage.
While only the Google Play Store can automatically update apps, an alternative is the APK Updater app, which scans several APK sources to let you manually update installed apps. There now also seems to be a third-party F-Droid client for Google TV.
As the Onn 4K Pro has several sponsored buttons that become useless without their intended apps, I tried using a button remapping app to map newly-installed apps in their place, but had mixed results in terms of buttons acting up. People seem to recommend tvQuickActionsPro though, which might work.
An issue regarding SmartTube is that if you use the voice command functionality of the remote to look up YouTube videos, Google TV will try to open them in the default YouTube app. Normally, a bridge app could be used to connect SmartTube to the YouTube API calls. Since YouTube comes preinstalled on the Onn 4K Pro (though presumedly wouldn’t if you use LineageOS?), this method must be used instead. If you don’t use that functionality though, it may be a moot point.
Projectivy? I see Projectivity in places, is that an autocorrect error?
I paid for Projectivy when my NVIDIA box started showing me ads for Target. Very nice.