• deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    Focusing on protein and healthy fats over carbohydrates is not quackery.

    An insistence on meat/dairy, that’s quackery, but Americans in general eat too many shit tier carbohydrates and fats and not enough protein.

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      5 hours ago

      We eat more than enough protein. What we lack is roughage. We’re all in on that ultra processed white bread and corn chip stuff with lots of pasta. The main foods we need to eat more of remains as it always has: vegetables and to a lesser extent unprocessed fruits. We also should shift how we consume starches to healthier variants like baked potatoes. But seriously, it’s fiber, we don’t eat enough fiber

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        4 hours ago

        I don’t disagree with that at all. Fiber is massively important.

        I suppose what I’m trying to say is, given a constant calorie budget, people would be healthier if they shifted their proportions of calories towards protein and good fats and away from carbohydrates and bad fats. This does not seem like quackery to me, it seems like sound dietary advice.

        • eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          This is broadly true, and the majority of the information in the new dietary guidelines is more or less in line with what we know already and what was recommended before. Protein is a great energy source that keeps you fuller longer, and is especially important if you’re active. But the new recommended range of protein intake is ridiculous. 1.2-1.6 grams per lb of body weight is well above the range that is helpful for bodybuilders, much less average sedentary Americans. Many will meet this with red meat consumption, which has a number of negative health and climate effects that the new dietary guidelines have nothing to say about.

          You also really do need fats and carbohydrates for a number of vital body processes, and I think unless they’re active and being VERY careful, someone eating 1.6 g/lb of protein will struggle to get enough fat and carbs without introducing a caloric surplus.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        3 hours ago

        It really depends on your activity level and what your goals are. To quote from your own source "If you’re actively building muscle with strength or resistance training, more protein can help,” said Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, a Tufts University nutrition expert. “Otherwise, you’re getting enough.”

        Most Americans are getting enough protein in their diet because most Americans are less active than they should be and are already eating more than they should be.

        Diets should be built around an individuals needs, though fiber is one of the things virtually no one is getting enough of unless your eating like 5 cups of lentils everyday.

    • hector@lemmy.today
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      5 hours ago

      That is true, the sugar (and corn,) industry at a minimum has run influence operations demonizing fat for the harms of sugar.

      The body actually does not feel full until it gets enough fat, the stomach tastes the contents, if you have no fat you take in way more calories. Also, sugar is half fructose and half glucose. Glucose is good, used as is, that is what they put in hospital IV drips. Fructose gets metabolized in your liver into fat, then used, but the body does not recognize it as a food. It does not contribute to a full feeling.

      Every time these dumb motherfuckers get thirsty they swill down pop, with the equivalent of 16 teaspoons of sugar in a 16 ounce. It is a major, if not the largest, factor in obesity.

      Fructose could not even be utilized in human ancestors in the monkey days, it was not until a cold wind blew over africa for centuries that our monkey ancestors got the ability to turn that fructose into fat, to use for the periods when we did not have fresh fruit on hand every day all day. According to a national geographic article titled Sugar, now not findable on enshitified search engines because fuck you, (and me, the consumer not a personal dig.)