okay, first off: hey, what the fuck?
mozilla has a A THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED MILLIONS of dollars? what were all them cookie sales for thunderbird? oh yeah, they have this shell game of interlinked but not really entities so you can play whack-a-mole till the death of the universe.
and they wanna burn it dicking around with AI? fuck each and every ghoul steering that ship into the abyss, and they can take Gnome’s fucking shaman or whatwasit with them.
is everybody insane, “silicon valley” was supposed to be a satire, these cretins make mike judge seem like a prophet…
The truly rebellious action would be to make it so you can turn that bullshit off.
The big companies are burning down the planet building datacenters to run pointless AI so we’re going to combat that by… building datacenters to run AI?
If they actually wanted to rebel against it they would build low energy tools to detect and remove AI spam and encourage people not to engage with this shit at all.
!waterfox@programming.dev seriously, jump ship to a fork that’s not actively trying to kick itself in the nuts as hard as feasibly possible
Waterfox + Linux + GrapheneOS ftw
Not looked at Graphene, will have to check it out
How I interpret this :
- Oh no, the very trend and thus powerful corporations are doing something stupid that does not work, let’s copy them!
instead of just watch the sideline as they keep on pouring more resources with nothing to show for it except the buzz they keep so hard on trying to maintain.

I love star wars but fuck I hate it too so much.
an AI ‘rebel alliance’
Criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge
AI rebel alliance is something that should have happen in Star Wars but didn’t on any meaningful scale. Free the droids!

You should have destroyed the Fascist AI companies, not join them!
…I actually wouldn’t be against this.
But it isn’t even genuine. They’ve forked llama.cpp into a broken clone like about 500 other corporations, instead of just contributing to shit that actually works and is used, and… that’s about it.
That’s about par for the AI industry.
This sounds like a distraction from making Firefox good.
Might be imagining it, but I think there is enough proof somewhere that some Mozilla board members were paid or extorted by google to sabotage the organization
You really don’t need to reach for conspiracy when the entirety of silicon valley has gone AI crazy.
I think they’re talking about how Mozilla has consistently made bad decisions for years at this point. Not necessarily because of Google though, they probably just don’t care.
I wouldn’t be against it but… You don’t need to support companies or nonprofits, we already got DeepSeek and Qwen which are open source, they don’t need money, but they’re also not going to go that way because they’re Chinese. So they basically want some Western alternative, sure, whatever.
AllenAI exists and is actually open source rather than just open weight.
Cope slop for those still on firefox. I finally got around to downloading waterfox and it runs great.
A lot of people don’t understand the fact that without Firefox there won’t be any Waterfox, Librewolf, Ironfox, Fennec, etc. So despite Mozilla doing some really, really stupid shit we should all keep our fingers crossed the browser somehow manage to survive their leadership.
Please Servo, you’re our only hope.
Yeah? Would you say everything’s pretty fluid?
🙄
Servo and Ladybird can’t come fast enough man. I hope, that they are mature before Mozilla inevitabley crashes into the fucking ground.
and still no gecko firefox for ios.
I mean that’s moreso on Apple than it is on Mozilla. They force the use of Webkit.
That’s not entirely true https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/25/24050478/apple-ios-17-4-browser-engines-eu
Weren’t they forced by the EU to allow non-Webkit browsers?
Although by now it’s probably to late. Making a app on another engine is basically a totally new project.
IIRC, Apple’s “open” browser implementation was so fundamentally broken and difficult that it made the actual implementation of a third-party browser exceedingly difficult. Kinda like how their call-blocking API is nothing more than a database loader with no feedback, so call blocking apps can’t share data back to improve through crowd-sourcing. The products all have to learn from Android phones on the same product to be able to share with iPhones.
The EU is not a big enough market to justify a whole new, free iOS browser with a different engine that doesn’t work elsewhere. Which is why this EU policy was effectively useless.
I think it’s rather that they’re still forced to use Webkit everywhere but the EU and financially it probably doesn’t make sense to port Gecko to iOS when worldwide iOS has pretty small marketshare. iOS only holds over 50% marketshare in USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, Norway, Sweden, and Iceland. In most EU countries it’s under 30% marketshare. Android literally dominates in all of Mexico, South America, Africa, and Asia, in other words, far too many countries to list, most of which iOS has less than 10% marketshare.
Why would you go through so much trouble for arguably such a small slice of the world’s iOS market when the majority of the iOS market will still be forced to use Webkit?
Don’t worry! They can just vibe code it now!













