I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!

I feel like we only have two options now

  1. Ascend to BSD-land
  2. Ironically supporting Windows Unironically

edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD

  • msage@programming.dev
    7·
    4 days ago

    Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

    Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

    Plan9 sounds like a more exclusive deal.

    • thejml@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      4 days ago

      As someone who installed Gentoo from nothing but a Stage 1 iso and kernel tarball back in 2003, this is crazy to read. I was able to squeeze so much performance out of a 300mhz embedded board back then though compared to most distros… after the 6hr kernel build.

      • msage@programming.dev
        4·
        3 days ago

        Stage 1 and 2 are no longer available (I mean technically you could, but it’s not suggested). Stage 3 was super easy, even with kernel from source.

        It takes time, sure, but it can compile on background. I got 16 threads on my CPU, so leaving 12 for emerge, I can still use the PC.

        I get that people joke about ‘days of compiling’, and maybe it’s real for a huge mass of packages, but even if, it doesn’t stop me from working.

        • thejml@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          3 days ago

          Remember, the days of compiling was back when we were running this on 300-500Mhz single core CPUs with 5400RPM spinning rust and RAM amounts in the hundreds of MB.

          The embedded system I was putting this on was a 300Mhz single core low power AMD processor with 256MB and a laptop 4200RPM 4GB drive. And yeah, it probably took over a day to compile everything… but it ran much faster than a stock kernel as I could customize the system to only have what it needed and leverage the on-chip ssl and video acceleration support. I used it for a NAS and home server for years.

          • msage@programming.dev
            1·
            3 days ago

            I know, but that’s so long ago, yet the jokes are here anyway.

            Which is shame, as it seems to be scaring away potential users.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      31·
      4 days ago

      Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

      Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

      Less prone to randomly biting your head off anyway.

      More tame.

      Takes more petting though, to get it to settle.

      • msage@programming.dev
        1·
        3 days ago

        Really?

        I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

        Apart from initramfs from install, which took more time, it felt like everything else just worked. Including installing Steam.

        • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          Really?

          Yes. Gentoo really is like that compared to arch.

          I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

          Oh.

          Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

          That^ made it seem to me like you had.

          • msage@programming.dev
            2·
            3 days ago

            I just read a lot of Wiki.

            But when I discovered how cool it is to compile stuff, I went straight to Gentoo, assuming it’s mostly the same apart from packaging.

            • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
              2·
              3 days ago

              Before I tried gentoo (or rather sabayon, for 3 years before gentoo proper), from all the “you have to compile everything”, I imagined that as a lot of running “make”. I didn’t realise it’s even easier1 than other package managers.

              1 emerge is shorter to type than e.g. apt-get install

              • msage@programming.dev
                1·
                2 days ago

                Yeah, it’s insane how easy to use Gentoo is.

                Nobody will take it from me. But I admit to only using it on desktop, laptop is using Mint. If I ever find time to play around with a build server, I will try switching there, too.