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      Kali Linux as Chad OS suggests this list is as much meme as truth so I wouldn’t worry about the rankings.

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      Well it was. It’s got a major update recently which ruined everything. Still better than Windows tho xD

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      Hell, Mac OS is even a certified UNIX operating system, something that even Linux (or GNU+Linux) can’t say.

      It’s still a non-FOSS OS which is the real reason it sucks, but it’s a lot better than a lot of people seem to think. Whereas Windows just plain sucks on a usability level too, not just the licensing.

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        The UNIX certification is arbitrary and useless. Windows 11 could get it if they paid for it.
        UNIX is irrelevant now anyway. Linux has taken its place, and every commercial UNIX (except for MacOS I guess) is at end of life or in maintenance mode now. They only still exist for a handful of applications that require decades of backwards compatibility.

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        I read a deep dive into the macos “certified UNIX” thing and it’s a scam. I dont remember the details but the certification is obtained only through a set of testing exceptions. The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.

        As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience. It’s not quite as bad as windows, but macos is not the “user friendly, it (mostly) just works and gets out of your way” os it used to be.

        I’m full time Linux now and when I have to use macos or windows I cannot believe how user hostile they both are.

        Linux is far from perfect, but at least I control my system/os.

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          As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience.

          I haven’t really used Mac OS since Mountain Lion, so that makes me sad to hear, but I’m not really surprised.

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          The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.

          Could be that they certified the Darwin kernel, but not the commercial offering?

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          Oh hey. You’re me! I’ve historically been a very loyal Mac user who played with Linux here and there, but I’ve been full time Linux for the past few two years.

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            Sibling from another mother! Tried it a few times over the years here and there just like you, until going full time.

            Also got a full homelab going and have been learning python.

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        However good it is and however many certificates it has i personally agree with the dogshit classification. It won’t install on any of about 8 computers in my house, including one I bought from apple. Literally unusable to me for the last 10ish years. Windows would probably install on one or two of them I think, so I’ll give it a few hypothetical points for usability for that.