• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    On Discord, I open the app, go to a server, and can see all the rooms and all the messages almost instantly.

    On Element (at least on Android), chats from different communities intermingle with my groups.

    are you using the spaces feature in element? that’s the same thing as discord “servers”. they are on the left, unless you have none yet. the default setting in element is a bit silly, you should turn off showing rooms from all spaces when a space is not opened, it’ll be much better.

    on phone the space list is at the bottom.

    I tapped on a large and slow-moving group, and watched messages slowly lurch into view as most of the messages were “join” and “leave” ones.

    which app are you using? element X, or the old, plain element? the old app is slow, the new one should work much better in that regard.

    you can also disable showing name change and membership change events if you don’t care, but membership is good to be aware of and shouldn’t be a problem with element x

    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 hours ago

      I think this is a good example of how Matrix does support most of the things we expect from Discord, but the defaults are sometimes wrong (showing rooms from spaces if not in a space), and the sheer number of client apps that are all slightly different and outdated in various ways adds a ton of friction to using it.

    • XLE@piefed.social
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      2 hours ago

      are you using the spaces feature in element? that’s the same thing as discord “servers”. they are on the left, unless you have none yet.

      I wrote my comment when testing with Element X. You only get one room list, and it commingles chats from spaces with chats you made yourself.

      You have to go to a separate screen to see the spaces themselves. On this screen, I clicked on a group I was in, and it took six seconds to tell me there were four available chats.

      You can also disable showing name change and membership change events if you don’t care, but membership is good to be aware of and shouldn’t be a problem with element x

      Even if you disable viewing the events, they’re still loaded in the background. I like to disable them, but then you see a lot more nothing and you may not be sure why the screen is empty for a longer while.

      Joining a space requires you to manually join every single room in that space, which is bound to cause even more events in low traffic rooms…

      Basically, Matrix isn’t fast, it doesn’t look like it’s gonna get fast anytime soon, and it is definitely not a Discord replacement.