They both suck pretty bad

IIRC raspberry pis aren’t great as big storage NAS due to limited io but like for a small amount of home storage more than adequate.

I have an old Intel 1440 desktop that runs 24/7 hooked up to a UPS along with a Beelink miniPC, my router, and a POE switch and the UPS is reporting a combined 100w.

My UnRAID server is an HP desktop machine from 2011. More than capable of running dozens of services without tons of storage.

My main application server is a middling office desktop computer from 2011. Runs dozens of services without a sweat.

You are correct, Dokploy and Coolify are both listed as inspirations for ZaneOps.

lol not quite but I catch your drift.

Portainer is a container management system. It’s purpose is to allow you to manage containers in an easy to use GUI.

ZaneOps is a PaaS that allows you to automatically build and deploy web apps into containers without having to configure the underlying infrastructure at all.

For example, to deploy my static site on Portainer, I’d have to build my static site, containerize it, upload the container image to a registry (or directly to Portainer), then use Portainer to configure the environment and deploy the container. Then I’d have to configure a reverse proxy or web server to serve the contents of the container. If I wanted to continue working on that static site I’d need to configure some kind of CI/CD pipeline to try and automate all that previous work.

With ZaneOps, I store the Astro/11ty/other SSG files in a Git repo, and on any commit ZaneOps will automatically recognize the SSG framework I’m using, use Docker Swarm to spin up a container to build the site into static files, containerize the resulting files for me, and deploy the container. It then uses Caddy underneath to serve what’s in the container including provisioning SSL certs for the site. It will health check the new container before deploying it in a blue/green deployment model so that the old site is removed only after the new one is up and available. It’s the same workflow as deploying a site to GitHub Pages using GitHub Actions if you’ve ever done that.

Ultimately. You end up with the same result, a containerized workload, but ZaneOps takes your GitHub Repo and turns it into a built, running, containerized workload automatically. Automating the deployment of my own web apps using Portainer would be at the very least clunky and require a lot of surrounding infrastructure. It’s not something Portainer just does out of the box.

Cockpit isn’t much like either, it’s just a web based server management tool.

Nothing. Just helps pay for development.

Wasn’t it stable like a month ago?

You needed an AI to create a few dozen JSON files for you or else it would have taken you days?

Maybe the luddites have a point after all.

This was the peak of human civilization.

What importance exactly? Besides identity and policy… what does it do better than some third party software at this point?

Are you commenting from the year 2007?

Corporations haven’t ditched windows because Active Directory and Group Policy had no equal. Now that Microsoft has slowly pushed everybody to cloud based identity, there’s really nothing stopping you from using something other than AD or even Entra ID

Yes and it’s so funny to me as somebody that works in datacenter and cloud infrastructure for public apps for a living. All the gatekeeping is done by hobbyists without the faintest clue but all the confidence in the world, or click ops internal IT sysadmins grossly overestimating their self worth.

Be safe, ask questions, and fuck what the haters think.

You mean like… the article you’re commenting on does?

None of that is remotely true lol. You don’t get a passkey, you generate. Nothing is “sent” to you at any point in time, it has nothing to do with email.

There’s a hassle?

This article isn’t behind a paywall, you just have to make an account.