Okay fine, but we can fight in ways that are outside of voting. 🙂

I want the thickest possible wall between me and the genocide supporters. Like of course, within the resistance I want to unite and not be divisive, but if we allow genocide supporters into the movement then it ain’t worth shit.

No kindness for monsters, and we need to be firm with pulling people away from falling in line with the monsters.

How about don’t contribute and just let them roll over you

I am not saying to just let them roll over us. Do anything else. Voting is a form of letting them roll over us, it’s just the version of getting rolled that lets you feel better than everyone else and serves as a pressure valve for righteous proletarian fury.

Of course I’m not okay with what ICE is doing! Biden and Obama were doing ICE too, and Harris would have done it just as hard as Trump, just in “norm-preserving” ways, as did Biden and Obama and Bush as long as ICE existed. And if Harris was elected, vote-Blue-no-matter-who liberals wouldn’t fucking care because they don’t want to abolish ICE.

Buddy I’m just some dude with zero power and zero ability to individually change the trajectory of this fascist country. I didn’t let these fuckers do shit. The capitalist class is fully culpable for their own crimes.

And also what part of "…moral prohibition on siding with

ANY

administration that endorses

GENOCIDE

…" is unclear to you?

Like one simply cannot do a genocide and ever expect literally any goodwill from me ever again, certainly not a vote, but I wouldn’t even piss on these fucks if they were on fire. And I’m not even the teeniest tiniest bit sorry if “I unconditionally refuse to support genocidaires” is a controversial opinion to you, and I literally never will be. Fuck Trump, fuck Harris, fuck Biden, fuck Obama, fuck Bush, fuck Clinton, and fuck every other president, and fuck the whole the goddamn settler project for the rest of fucking time.

I mean, the protest non-voters are also fucking morons.

Ah yes, thank you for giving me a second chance to correctly apply this quote:

But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

If you want to criticize effectively, be more precise.

Okay: precisely, Zionist dogma is equivalent to Nazi dogma where Zionist Jews are the privileged in-group. And what the Israeli entity is doing to Palestinians is equivalent in intent and practice to what the Nazis did to Jews.

If I made any other comparison, I would be losing precision, because the comparison is so precise!

Correct. Zionists were fascist trash since the inception of the Zionist movement.

Yeah I remember that asshole. I remember yelling at them a couple days before they got banned too 😆

“Anarchist without adjectives” more like “”“anarchist”“” without principles

Nah fuck right off with that opinion, two and a half fucking years into the Gaza genocide, you fucking for real? Israel is just “Jews longing for national liberation”? Shut the fuck up Zionist

Say the line, Bart! OOPS, I initially misread your post, I thought you were yelling at people who voted for neither Harris nor Trump as a principled anti-Israel position, not people who voted for Trump for supposedly being the lesser pro-Israel candidate. Obviously I didn’t vote for Trump, and obviously fuck Trump and his supporters and voters.

Gonna leave the quote tho because it’s always One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This-o-clock.

But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

Check your university’s policies. Unless you can justify it as related to your education, you probably won’t be allowed to do it if they notice it.

Edit: I thought you meant running your self-hosted services on the university’s servers.

No. It’s piracy, and piracy is based. 🏴‍☠️

This time it will not miss the target.

I sure hope not!

Based, get rekt Nazi scum

Implying that a Harris/second Biden administration wouldn’t be a cataclysmic disaster

Implying that any outcome where AmeriKKKa continues to exist and destroy our world wouldn’t be a cataclysmic disaster

Yes, pragmatically speaking, voting for Biden does absolutely fucking nothing to alleviate any of the problems faced by the working class. It doesn’t affect the onward progression of capitalism, it doesn’t stop the racists from controlling the government, doesn’t stop the cops from murdering black people, doesn’t stop the erasure of LGBTQIA lives, doesn’t do anything.

The pragmatic options are to first stabilize your own situation, and then organize popular resistance and do direct actions if you have the bandwidth.

Meh, not that great an argument. We really shouldn’t be paying bills to people who allow this system to keep chugging.

Better argument would be that we have our own domestic military to be afraid of (i.e. AmeriKKKan police).

And even in the face of both these arguments, I think it’s 1000% justified to be upset at USians because they barely even have to try to manufacture our consent anymore.

But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine