This is hard as shit to avoid when your job requires you to use a Iphone, but they dont want you to download “the Chinese apps” 😑

Fucking ridiculous.

Im having this very same problem on e/OS. Just moving everyone over to Delta chat cause i got tired of trying differernt apps, and trying to work out that same issue with SMS not working properlly.

Google messages and IMessages at this point are literally the same thing. They both use RCS, just on different platforms. Unless your family really like Apple, it shouldnt have been a problem.

My folks were really chill about the change until i decided to go the degoogle route. Texting started to become an issue, and im trying to tell anyone that i text to go to Delta Chat. So far, some of my family are using it. But for others, i know its gonna be an issue.

Yeah, its basically that. When i moved from IMessage to Google Message(this was before i went down the FOSS rabbit hole), you have to remake your group chats or someone who is your contact would have to send a text that makes you rejoin a group chat even though you no longer see any of your old messages. One of the biggest annoyances from Apple, its way to locked down to the point that you cant even export your messages, unless its with another apple device.

What the hell does having Latino friends have anything to do with what type of messaging services they use? Your completely missing the point or your just trying to start drama.

That is just so overly complicated, i would rather just start them over🤣🤣

Yeah, thats the main issue with imessage (and it still is) and if your switching from IOS to android, you have to start over on all of your messages unless if you figure out a way to back them up.

You say that until you cant even text your family or friends because every messaging application requires RCS. In the US, almost everyone is using RCS or we are using Windows with Microsoft Teams because of work. We dont use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc, unless its about traveling out of the country. Apple and Google really want SMS and MMS to kick the bucket but if GOS can pull this through, Im 100% for it.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, what is the growth of GOS gonna be? If Google is kicking them out and they’re focusing on flagship phones from Motorola, then it sounds like they have limited their growth potential have they not?

Yeah, you can buy any phone to install any OS system (if you can even find the right model for it) or just degoogle it and use it like that. Thats not a big deal.

The ditching only comes in when you can’t use apps because your OS no longer supports it. That too can happen to any phone.

Semi rant: (Pet peeve about the part in the chart about Apple) I use to have an iPhone, and experienced the phones from an iPhone 6, 12 to iPhone 15 and I can say that max is like 2-4 years, not whatever the hell that article is trying to suggest. Shit, if your phone is 1-2 OS system older than what an app requires, its gonna force you to update the phones. Longetivity of iPhones is very lackluster.

I know, but Im spcifically speaking on GOS and how they as well sound like they are closing themsevles off.

Even though that’s true. Phones really shouldnt be expensive. GOS isn’t supporting the older phones, I think the oldest you can go now is the pixel 7. Since GOS is stopping for the Pixel 11, Is there any other alternative OS that can be used for pixels? Or where are the other phones that supports GOS?

Google is closing in on their phones. GOS users in a time span of 3-7 years (depending on the pixel they have) would unfortunately have to find an alternative after that lifespan unless GOS starts supporting other phones that isnt breaking the bank. GOS as well is basically closing off their OS market. Which is why I made that comment. If you want the OS now, they’re gonna make you pay for it.

Motorola is unfortunately gonna be in the same boat too when it comes to the prices. And I highly doubt GOS is gonna focus on their cheaper phones because they notoriously have poorer software. So now, it seems GOS is gonna be an exclusive feature. If you want it, your gonna have to pay for it.

I personally don’t trust Motorola due to having poor experiences with their budget phones. Its not worth with unless you shell out the money.

What I feel no one is asking is, and what I’m still confused about, would MicroG still be working wthin all of this? Its a sandbox, I get it, but that dosent mean it could have the ability to stop working since it can’t access apps. Like if that gets closed off, then what? There are still some app that are not fully stock android that a lot of people need to use unless you have them on computer or tablet ( For banking for example, I use my apps for all my finances on my iPad)

Maybe I don’t get how the sandboxing works for MicroG but, if its using google, I would avoid it as much as I can.

They also got a store called Aurora Droid. Its another alternative to fdroid. Now I don’t know if it’ll help with some apps from Aurora store but its another alternative.

It just makes sense to just download everything from Droid-ify and/or Fdroid ( almost all of my apps are from these two). Yeah but even with that, it can still get shut off. Idk. . I wouldn’t risk it.

Oh come on with these prices!! This is BS.😑 This is why I got my Teracube 2s. Its around 350 getting the degoogled version and thats it.

Your getting scammed paying over 1000+ for these phones, people, don’t do it. Linux needs to come on already and make resonable priced phones.

I don’t know… some of these apps I’ve been experimenting with, even with microG, of not work properly just because your not getting it from the play store. Also,with September being around the corner, I would try to stay away from google as much as I can.

Umm tbh I haven’t tried any of those.

I picked Delta cause it’s the most user friendly, you send a QR code of your chat or channel, make an anon profile and boom your done.

I know for myself I will go down and try those but I’m dealing with people who really don’t understand what FOSS and AOSP is, so I gotta take it slow.😅😅 My family thinks using Delta alone is going “off the grid” I don’t want to scare them off.

I saw someone post the link but, One step at a time. My family is not on the FOSS journey like I am.😅

With the link, I was just showing what the difference was and how much your really not missing unless your concerned with certain features. Also, how the hell is that AI? It looks like a regular general blog post to me, where are you getting the AI part from?

I’m on a degoogled device, you don’t have RCS unless you’re using MicroG and gets an app that uses it. I don’t want to use it and for some reason, regardless of turning RCS on/off, messages are not working properly, so I decided to pick Delta Chat. it’s easy to use, straightforward and I direct everyone to one place. What’s the fucking problem?

Signal uses the google play store. I would have to use microG to use it and I don’t want to do that. What’s the problem, with that?

I also picked Delta chat because in the states, we have been having serious issues lately with Cellular power outages. I still want to connect with my family if, god forbid we have a complete blackout. I know as well there are other messaging apps for that case as well.

You people on this freaking app annoy the shit out if me, and get so easily triggered, when someone doesn’t pick the same apps, applications, products or procedures when using FOSS. Its fucking annoying honestly. FOSS is fucking FOSS for a reason