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  • That they are doing it doesn’t mean they want it this way. Ubuntu calls its half yearly releases unstable (or used to), which scares users off. Upgrading is also hard on ubuntu (compared to arch, where the set of installed packages stays (apart from renaming and similar) the same). And for the software where they need it, the users already use ppas, probably. And then there are the users who almost only use a browser. And there are enterprise users who don’t upgrade because not all of their software works on new ubuntu.


  • Ubuntu being shit for personal users is all but new (Who wants 2 year old software? I want upstream’s latest stable release. Who likes snap?). Ubuntu having higher hardware requirements than other distros is also not new (it’s the reason why I switched away from it over a decade ago). Ubuntu breaking stuff is also not new (big upgrades of ubuntu flavors have always been disrupting for me). Ubuntu shipping new premature things instead of being stable also feels not new to me.

    Ubuntu is doing ubuntu things. It’s interesting to see how far it went. The video also has a bit of needless whining though (who cares about the different default for sudo asterisks, just change the setting).




  • Eh, it’s a teensy bit harder, since you have to remember what -S means, rather than the easy to remember and plain English ‘install’. But, yeah, not much of a difference.

    Thanks! I initially thought about writing this in my comment in parentheses, but then didn’t do because it would’ve made the comment longer, and I’m not sure if other people want to read the pedantic truth anyways. I’m glad you filled this void.


    The instructions for installing on ubuntu only work because of ubuntu’s popularity. Also if you can copy-paste commands, you can also just follow build instructions. In arch, these commands are in the PKGBUILD, you don’t have to copy them manually. Plus you have the knowledge that you’ll have something that you can also deinstall later. Applications’ websites usually don’t have uninstallation instructions.



  • Just as easy to write as a command.

    No. First you, the helper, have to find the option in the gui. Then you have to look up every step in the path through the gui. At every step you have to find the english name for the button/menu (localization exists), and manually type it (because you can’t select and copy the text of the gui (by default at least)). Also just referring to buttons by name sometimes won’t work. It is so cumbersome.



  • With a rolling release distro you get the most recent upstream stable releases of all your software packages. There is really no blood involved. If you want the risk of blood, you need to install the bloody versions of upstream, i.e. newest git master.

    Ubuntu et all on the other hand give you months to years old software. If you’re fine with that 🤷. And on big upgrade, they break install different software and tend to break stuff.

    Idk what role hardware age has here.