Neither do Samsung, the jellyfin app works great on Samsung after the annoying process of installing it, but can’t put a VPN on it that I’m aware of.

I prefer distros if available, but in some cases the version in the distros can suck. A solid example, and this could 100% be user error, but I used aur to get Picard on my tablet, but there was no app menu bar. Like at all, no window settings in the world made a difference, and the global menu didn’t show anything either. So I couldn’t change settings at all. I removed the aur package and installed the flatpak, everything worked no problem.

Flatpaks are okay, but due to laziness, I’m not proficient with making them interact well with each other.

App images can be great, but also annoying depending on how your system handles them. On a Debian based machine it would “install” the app image as if it were a normal app, and in some cases even check for updates. In garuda I have to manually go to the file and execute it each time. I’m no Linux master, so I could probably do something in garuda to make it work similar to Debian, but I only have one app there that I care about and I’m lazy…

I don’t like snaps, they seem finicky to me.

If the Dev has their own recommended source, package, or whatever I try to stick to that. I.e. if they say their focus is on an app image, but aur has it, and there’s a flatpak, and x y z options, I’ll try the app image, and if that does what I need it to, I stick with it. If they recommend snap I try to find another app or another option to install.

Try USB 2 ports using a USB 2 drive, and try different ports. Ive seen issues where I had a perfectly good drive and it wouldnt boot at all. Using a different port it installed fine. Similar issues using USB 3 drive or ports in machines only a few years old.

Amcrest ptz. The app blows, but it does the job. Bonus ptz if kitty is on the move. Otherwise stationary cameras work too obviously cheaper.

https://amcrest.com/security-cameras-for-home-and-business/ptz-cameras.html

Yup look at me wagglin my finger over here.

If I decide to put up with this type of attitude any further I’ll go get a job in fast food. At least then I’d get paid.

Have fun with your gatekeeping.

Would you say your attitude and responses here drive inclusion or increase motivation to join opensource or improve things voluntarily?

Live usbs are great, but ive 100% had issues after install before on several distros. Arch of course being the worst. Live distros boots, install, boot loop… But that happened on popos too. Ive also seen other more minor issues like Bluetooth stops working after install despite it being a base install. Like literally install, reboot, and Bluetooth no longer works. Given this is on newer hardware, but it can be hella frustrating to go from a live boot that works to a fresh install that doesn’t match the experience.

I don’t think anyone is blaming volunteers. More so stating the obvious. If you’re new to Linux, you cant be expected to know everything about it. You may not know that some hardware may not work well with Linux. You may not know secure boot sux with linux. You may not know arch is not the best intro to Linux but because arch based distros are recommended frequently for gaming you may try it first. Linux can have a steep learning curve, expecting everyone to RTFM and all the forum posts is unreasonable. Sometimes people just need to try and experience pain and frustration.

That’s an insult to things that suck.

Ive had truenas, moved to unraid in the past few months. The one constant has been nextcloud is a pita. Even the legacy manual install blows. I dropped it and have been much happier ever since.

Clearly they learned nothing from windows 8…

Pretty sure that was home assistant. I had the same issue. Phone would even get piping hot. Killed home assistant, problem solved. I’m connected to VPN to home using openvpn 24/7. Too lazy to switch to wireguard :p

I wanted this, but it wouldnt boot for me. :( my hardware was pretty new at the time though, so maybe works now?I’ll have to try it again some time.

WD reds I believe are smr, wd red pros are cmr, or at least that was a thing for a while that WD did silently.

While I agree the apps shouldn’t be removed, updates aren’t just about features. Updates fix bugs, security holes, and improve performance. I’m notsaying these apps in particular have issues, though what app doesnt, just pointing it out in general.

They seem like they would be good, but the more Ive experienced them the less I like them.

My USG can’t get past 250mbps, probably thermal as well. The cloud keys are shotty at best. They build that to make it difficult to disassemble and service. They lock you into their crap software ecosystem that then requires their hardware. Ive setup 2 poe switches and both were warped and have excessive thermals compared to my much larger poe switches.

I am starting to call ubiquiti fauxsumer products…

Google best gaming Linux distros. DraugerOS, Garuda, and popos are all prominent distros focused on gaming.

DraugerOS is Ubuntu LTS based.

Mint, not gaming focused, has been around for ages and is Ubuntu based. I’ve used it previously on older hardware with no issue. Just apparently doesn’t like newer hardware.

Garuda is arch based, probably why it was such a pain.

Popos is Ubuntu based as well.

I’ve also tried KDE plasma, ubuntu based, and man was that slow as hell. Works great on some hardware not on the hardware I tried.

I’ve installed Ubuntu in the past and had WiFi driver issues.

You mentioned any modern distros should work out of the box. The only one listed that mostly worked out of the box with semi reasonable performance was popos.

if someone is looking to install a distros to play games, theyll probably google “Linux for gaming” install one of the prominent distros listed above geared toward gaming then bang their head against the wall and quit.

We may understand arch is a full time job, but when Joe from sales builds a new gaming rig and took someone’s advice to install Linux and save money he doesn’t know all Linux distros are not created equally. Maybe he gets garuda or draugeros and bangs his head against the wall then goes back to windows.

There are a million different distros and yes some of the major ones work fine, but not always and if you run into issues it can be exponentially harder to fix the issue especially if you have no IT experience. Making it even worse is toxicity in forums or other support places where people treat you like you should know better because they have of knowledge of Linux and forget that we all have different levels of experience, many people have no experience.

DraugerOS wouldnt even boot from the thumb drive for me. Garuda sort of worked, the live boot was damn near perfect, from a stability and basic performance perspective, but after a basic install there were some annoying artifacts like a block behind the cursor on some windows, steams store page would flash rapidly and performance was trash in any game even on low settings. A Logitech mouse scroll wheel was hit or miss working. I mean like you spin the wheel and while the wheel was free spinning the browser would start and stop responding to it. 8 hours of messing with kernels, drivers, and settings it I threw in the towel. Not worth the effort to just get it to run normally let alone

Arch was similarly poor performance. Mint was also poor performance. Im not a fan of the PopOS style, but it actually ran great on my machine so, I’ll take it.

Point being, I tried 4 different distros before finding one that worked mostly well out of box.

Edit: wrong name for draugeros

The cost of something isn’t always in the form of money. In many cases with Foss there are comprises in either simplicity, stability, documentation, or compatabiliry.

For instance I can boot my machine into a live garuda instance and it runs great, but as soon as I install it, it runs like trash. I spend something like 3 hours fiddling trying to get it going then wipe and try to install smaugos and it wont even boot. I install debian and it works okay but sluggish. Popos works fine. 2 days of fiddling around and I find something that works. Windows may cost more than just money, but it worked out of the box and I didn’t have to fiddle or try a bunch of different distros. We can go down that rabbit hole, but let’s look at other things.

Foss often has volunteer support that can be hit or miss and often requires more advanced knowledge of the os or software. There’s also often toxicity like people shaming for not knowing everything about the application or os. Commercial support is often dedicated and may even remote into your computer. I’m not saying Foss can’t do that, but I’ve never heard of it for free.

FOSS doesn’t work nearly as easily or reliably as commercial software a lot of the time. Nextcloud is a good example. There are a million ways to install it, but now you need to learn docker, or how to setup a web server and even then maybe the docker image is buggy or straight up doesn’t work. The different Linux distros is another example.

Then there’s the learning curve. Even if FOSS has 1:1 parity in functionality, it often comes at the cost of learning a LOT about a new application, or the functionality is different or harder to use compared to a commercial alternative.

Don’t get me wrong I live foss. I self host, I’m slowly getting rid of windows and degoogling. But there is cost to do all of this, even if its not monetary. Plus not everyone has the time, patience, or interest in it.