One would expect such a small sample size to lower the crash rates. But tesla is subverting expectations yet again.

At some point there’ll be enough pressure for a large enough fork of Firefox and Thunderbird to exist separately from Mozilla. Keep pushing, random clueless CEO.

These days I might do that. The thing is, I’m coming from a situation where windows was installed, fully setup and configured with whatever I needed, so it was way easier to just run that than to redo everything and setup a VM.

Also, the last piece of software I need is something used to bypass DRMs, and it kinda requires the whole thing to work flawlessly. I’ll see when I come around to launch it again if it’s viable.

That’s not a thing it can do in grub. It could do it with UEFI entries, but these days windows is not the biggest culprit of that. I had it happen on a BIOS update, where it simply nuked all stored entries, and the windows one is always checked as part of the standard.

That’s a bit extreme. I keep a windows install around, just in case. It’s just not in grub; I have to get into the bios boot menu and manually select it.

Everybody knows that this is yet another distraction, but how fragile are they ready to look like. They feel threatened by a text font and some numbers these days.

Well, I can see some use cases. But they’re usually not pointed down in the bowl.

Storage space, ensuring quality settings, supporting more device than “your tv”, smaller bandwidth requirements.

What, you think parents should watch over their kid and provide them interaction? What is this, year 1200?

I’ll never put foot on that hellhole again, but it would be funny if this was something he posted on twitter and grok showed up to “correct” him.

Yes, but under the promise that you won’t be under any kind of protection if it happens again in a few years.

Plot twist: they can, and will, do it even if you opt out. The only thing that change is that you won’t get anything out of it. Not that it would have been a significant return to begin with.

I was being generous. For some reasons, when I try voice recognition it triggers as if I’m speaking Japanese. And when I actually try to speak Japanese, I get english gibberish.

Hey, when I have Iron man Jarvis-like chatting me up, running locally, and never ever messing anything up, I’ll be impressed.

So far I have semi-competent voice transcription, borked understanding, incorrect action 4/5 of the time, underwhelming, if not broken output, and most of the time this bad version is dependent on a datacenter that’s aiming at obliterating a star worth of power every two hours.

I WONDER why this is not seen as impressive.

Not only it is actually happening, it’s actually well researched and mathematically proven.

It mostly did, yes. But when a big issue pops up, X still gets the occasional patch.

And, since this is a bit of a hot topic it seems, that sounds fair to me. X is the past, wayland is the future. I’m just annoyed at people glossing over the reasons not everyone can move on.

While it’s certainly winded down over time, XOrg is still maintained. Last fix was released in september 2025. Is it enough? It never is. But that’s not really an argument to move from “working” to “not working as well” for now.

Yeah, I know of such “solution”. But what is the point of forcing the change when it doesn’t bring me tangible benefits, brings significant downsides, and only some of these downsides have half-useful workarounds?

I have no problem with whether wayland existing or it becoming the new standard, but forcing people to move in these circumstances seems a bit silly, especially when some issues stem from people having hardware from one manufacturer that represents around 75% of general consumer systems (according to Steam survey, which might or might not be representative but sure brings a lot of people).

Thankfully, at least with the distributions I use, switching back and forth is trivial. But given the circumstances, I don’t really understand the extremely heavy push.

What are you talking about? You can copy-paste from Terminal programs to GUI programs and vice-versa like everywhere else (with the terminal of course needing CTRL + SHIFT + C / V, which as we know is historical to Unix terminals). I’m doing that for years, so does my family. It works just fine.

I’m not talking about copy/pasting from the terminal emulator, thank you very much. Just run VIM and have it copy/paste from the global clipboard without setting up esoteric, sometimes DE-dependent stuff, and you’ll understand.

And bringing up Nvidia now really is bending down backwards to paint Wayland as bad while it’s painfully obvious it’s the driver’s fault.

Sure. I did not say it was wayland fault. Or anyone else, really. I explained why some people could not “just move on to wayland already you nincompoop” with very tangible issues that still prevent them from doing so. Who is at fault is of no consequence here. If I switch to wayland, I lose features, I have a broken desktop, and throwing away thousands of equipment because “it’s the future” does not sound that great. It’s just a matter of fact. Whether it’s wayland’s fault, plasma’s implementation’s fault, nvidia’s fault, or anyone else’s is irrelevant to the user experience here.

People can’t go “stop using X and use wayland”, and ignore raised issues by saying “no, that issue you’re having is not a big issue”, “that issue you’re having is not wayland’s fault”, “that issue you’re having does not concern most people”, etc. And reading replies in this thread, it seems people have a hard time imagining circumstances beyond their own.

That sounds more like escape sequence not being interpreted, but maybe? It’s a mess.

Basically, in some implementations (it’s true for at least KDE Plasma), the console app is never seen as “active” (the terminal emulator is), and as such can’t access the clipboard, something like that. There’s third party program you can use, and plugins for things like VIM, but when you get a step further with remote clipboard it’s even worse. And even when solutions exists, there’s weird caveat like “it will work all the time except if you’ve clicked somewhere in the past few seconds” or something.

I’m sure things will improve over time, but “we’re not there yet”.