If they use a nuke then they are done.

Unbeleiveable

? read the comment train. You replied to me and then you act like a dementia patient after calling me an antisemite twice and failing to back it up. Like I said, dont insult people if you are too incapable of readnig and replying to comments, or too dishonest to make your point without failing to land and then resorting to ad-homs. I dont know what else to tell you, but all the points I made stand, and your throwing around "anti semitism like its a word that means anything after you lot spend the last several years making it mean nothing show us all who you are and what you are doing here. Get bent.

at best you replied with nastiness to the wrong comment.

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I never said anything about jewish bankers controlling a state. Nobody else did either. So you accuse me of antisemitism, play dumb when you get your arse rhetorically handed to you, you then strawman, close with another antisemitism accusation, and then walk away. Thats not a very convincing performance. Next time maybe dont start throwing around your “antisemitism” libel in the first place.

Maybe dont tell people they are engaging in conspiracy theory and strawman about elders of zion, whatever that is, if you are inpacable of understanding any response. And I dont completely beleive you when you say you dont understand.

Repeating antisemitic conspiracy ideology

And yet, genocide and ethnic cleansing of innocent people absolutely is a black and white issue. Its not subject to debate and its not a grey area. The commitments were made and the treaty documents signed.

any of the results of the recent polling in Israel seem very grey to you? https://archive.ph/Tjoj3. (Haaratz poll, architve.todayed it because its behind a paywall)

47% of Israelis want to murder every living non jewish human in Palestine.

56% want to expel Israeli citizens who arent Jewish.

93% say that the biblical command to kill every descendent of the tribe of Amalek (and their children and livetsock) still applies today somehow. So they want to kill palestinian’s pets now too? Just 7% of israelis are against mass murder from their dusty holy book, it seems.

82% want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian territories.

Ethnic cleansing and genocide based on ethnicity are not compatible with modern society and that’s black and white. There is no wiggle room.

A heavy accusation.

The Guardian newspaper, New York Times, Oxford research, Mondoweiss all cite the quote without any note of it being controversial, so your calling it a conspiracy theory is itself the conspiracy theory, unless you have some proof? Show us all your proof of your libelous accusation that is of similar standing to those 4 sources?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/12/israel1

https://mondoweiss.net/2013/06/the-young-palestinian/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/books/review/the-hundred-years-war-on-palestine-rashid-khalidi.html

https://oxfordre.com/literature/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190201098.001.0001/acrefore-9780190201098-e-1211

It also is exactly the same sentiment Ben Gurion expressed in so many venues and written letters in very similar wording. Are you denying that this is what – and how Ben Gurion (aka David Gruen before he moved from New York city to Palestine to found Israel) thought? Does your reflex toward revisionist history stretch so far? And you are pivotting from one lie to another aren’t you, because I see you have nothing to say about your previous accusation about “antisemtisim” huh. Well thats fine, I accept your apology as long as you don’t let those lies and slanderous accusations happen again.

Back up your self serving fantastical claims or dont make them. No one here has time for lies.

Dang. Good call, yes.

he’s sure trying.

I could cut and paste articles of Israeli terrorism, israeli rape, and israeli murders. Lots more then you could find from the “islamist” side. So thats a pretty weak point of rhetorical attack I’d say, especially since the zionists started this during the Nakba.

Will you admit that theres been about 100 years of vicious zionist terrorism? Its well documented.

You’d like to claim that being against Israeli murder is antisemitism and thats never been true. Its dishonest, it’s arguing via a category error, and communicating in bad faith.

Its a cheap facile con that also serves as a slight against the person you are talking to, by using such a stupid argument in a seemingly serious manner.

You’re not as clever as you think. You’re just weaponizing peoples wish for a just system to your own malignant purposes. We all see you.

Ben Gurion famously said of the zionist crimes of the Nakba in 1948, “The old will die and the young will forget.” But we will not forget. This will never be normalized, and Israel will remain a pariah people. That is a danger to global jewry and is itself the true antisemtisim thats happening today. Its being perpetrated by zionists like yourself.

They are a great people and a lot of fun. And deeply distrustful of the state for a lot of reasons. And they and Ireland are increasingly taking up the mantle of leaders of the free world. Germany and the US governments are corrupt and shameful.

I think we should disallow any travelers or trade from Israel into my country. No currency of fascists should be traded with dollars, until as a state they atone for their crimes.

And yet we are all accountable for our actions.

In terms of being accurate with our history, dont forget that 17 million people died in those camps, not just 6 million jewish people. In the movies its always solely jewish people being murdered. Russian citizens, soldier, catholics, gypsies, gays, disabled. we never talk about that extra 11 million dead, and each of those lives was as precious as your own life, or any other humans life. The takeaway from that should be that no genocide will ever be allowed again, of any race or any people. That obviously includes Palestinians and Muslims.

What do you think datadroplet, do you agree?

edit: and of course, datadroplet declines to comment about that. Seems like denial of genocide to me which I believe is against lemmys rules.

Comparing Israel to Nazi-Germany is antisemitic

I no longer subscribe to people telling me what is and what is not antisemitic. I’ll use my own brain for that, thanks.

We’ve seen too much abuse and restriction of language and crybullying from zionists to let that language be defined by you lot anymore. Hey did you see this one? The very word “Palestine” is itself a “genocide” against the zionists.

https://www.jns.org/the-word-palestine-is-genocide/

And heres one of Netenyahu calling IDF soldiers antisemitic who talk about their atrocities. I guess its “semitic” to keep crimes secret? Is that what you personally require to keep that “antisemitic” accusation from being thrown out?
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/06/28/netanyahu-says-its-antisemitic-for-israeli-soldiers-to-describe-their-own-atrocities/

I think the fact that you zionists wrung the holocaust for all the marketing value it was worth in order to commit your own gencocide on innocents is disgusting and wildly criminal. You belong in prison.

UK and US thought police on patrol. Bought and owned by the rich fatcats to promote their personal religious agenda using the state monopoly of the use of force on protestors not doing any harm to anyone. Disgusting.

Fuck me this is hilarious 😂

I know, hahah!

I see your racist and zionist viewpoint from your other comments, that wouldnt have anything to do with your response would it?

hahah!