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You didn’t answer my questions.
What moderation do you want? And how would you prevent “moderation” from becoming censorship?
Aren’t there people whose job is to prevent crimes? Why some IT person who has no idea of crime need to do their job?
You didn’t answer my questions.
What moderation do you want? And how would you prevent “moderation” from becoming censorship?
Aren’t there people whose job is to prevent crimes? Why some IT person who has no idea of crime need to do their job?
That is my concern with any US based company. With all the information we have how their government agencies used both legal and illegal means to access data how can you ever think those companies can protect your privacy even if they sincerely want to?
They do have the capability to not have the data requested. If they are not required by law(and it seems they aren’t), why store any data? They may have to provide data of the sessions that are active right now but it’s unlikely.
I wish it wasn’t located in the US where you know even though it’s e2ee they send all the data they get(and that’s a lot) to the government or whoever wants it. But e2ee is cool, right. Nobody from the government cares about it though, but it’s cool.
Why should they? Should every mail(physical or not) you receive be opened and read? Should the government have access to everything you do on your phone or pc? Should the government moderate your house? You are full 1984.
The government don’t usually need the text from your conversations, just the metadata who the person talks to, their location, etc. Signal is a US company, they surely provide all that data. It seems Telegram didn’t.
Despite TG being full of government trolls.
That’s the world we live in now. If it’s popular it will be full of trolls, government, corporate, all kind. Just somewhat popular, they are here on Lemmy too.
Well when Russia blocked Telegram it was just because Telegram refused to send them their users data. Simple. Now France seem to be sentencing a person to live in prison because Telegram still refuses to send them their users data. But they claim it’s for the children. Same shit, different excuse.
But the ban was only somewhat effective for like a month, then Telegram found a way to avoid it. In two years no one even felt like it was banned. So what could Russia offer to Telegram? Literally nothing.
I don’t see any agreement possible just because Russia had literally nothing to offer to Telegram.
I can do something about local storage, I can’t realistically do anything about E2EE.
You can enable secret chat. Like press the button. But that’s probably too difficult compared to encrypting you devices.
most smartphones have encrypted storage these days
Encrypted from your girlfriend or yourself if you forgot your gesture, but not from Google/Apple/Government or anyone who actually wants your data.
Again, it’s not, go to their github, check the code of the client, compile it yourself, and make a reproducible build to check that the client they ship to your phone is the same. You are talking nonsense.
It doesn’t matter what Facebook or WhatsApp say they use, their source code is closed, you can’t prove their words, meaning they don’t have e2ee. You can with Signal, you can with Telegram.
It was “blocked” for 2 years, though there was a problem accessing it for only a month or so as Telegram developers implemented ways to avoid the ban. In 2 years the government officials decided that Telegram made enough effort to block extremist materials to remove themselves from the embarrassment. Now they probably think “why didn’t we trick Durov to visit us and just arrest him like France did”.
Racism.
Syncing E2EE chats across devices is more difficult to pull off, but it’s definitely possible and other services do that by default.
That’s because if you are able to get your private key on another device, then Google, Apple or Microsoft, and that means anyone, also have access to your private key. And you don’t have e2ee, literally.
My comment was a sarcastic remark how hard it is to explain to millions of people how not to lose their data when they use e2ee.
If you are in the process of doing it - good job. But right now all out e2ee is for the enthusiasts only.
That’s ridiculous, Telegram client is opensource, Facebook is not. We know for a fact that Facebook shares their data with… well, anyone. The reason of the recent arrest of the Telegram CEO seems to be that he apparently doesn’t share anything.
They didn’t claim it though.
They said that all governments do some terrible things but in case of the governments that claim they are not authoritarian they pretext those things with something that will make the public not think they are doing a terrible thing.
In case of restricting Internet freedom or invading other countries it’s usually “but think of children”.