What the heck are you doing, doesn’t every single player just… play the music? How could the quality be worse?? I can imagine having gripes about the UI of some players, but the quality??

What do you mean? there are so many audio clients that can can connect to jellyfin. finamp, jellyamp, sonixd, … What is it you’re missing in a jellyfin audioplayer?

Just so you know: the valuation of SpaceX has nothing to do with the space side of the company. If you look at their projected revenue, the rockets etc… are a footnote. but SpaceX acquired XAI, and literally all of this projected growth is SpaceX becoming the leading AI company in the next decade.

(and i wish i was joking, but i see everybody here wondering how a space company could possible grow that much, or be expected to. And the answer obviously is it can’t, and noone expects it to. But an AI company in this AI bubble, that people believe…)

I haven’t seen it mentioned here yet, but software freedom conservancy is doing a fundraiser to bring bambulab to court, any donation from now till half july will be part of the fundraiser: https://sfconservancy.org/donate/

Can you agree we can’t put an infinite amount of people on a finite planet?

So that by default the discussion is not if overpopulation can exist, but when we reached it? If you don’t feel we reached it yet, i can imagine that. It’s a very tough topic. But just the very basic facts of existing on a planet of finite size means that there can only be so many of us before everything collapses.

And which fascist things do you associate with the “overpopulation” topic (i imagine for example the one child policy in china?). It’s not because something has been used by fascism, that it’s inherently fascist.

Current agricultural progress is mostly about needing as few people as possible for farming, not making enough food for everyone. It’s widely known there is plenty of food, the issues are social as to why some are still hungry, not technological.

And in the end, we’re on a finite planet, so whichever way you look at it, keeping increasing population numbers has to end somewhere, so the question is not does enough humans exist, but what is enough, and i think there are plenty of arguments thaht we’re overpopulating the earth already.

You’re quickly glossing over all the issues.

“human population has only been able to increase thanks to innovation”: and that’s a good thing? What would be wrong with a more manageable human population?

“If you want to go back to nature, by all means do.”: how? The world has advanced beyond that, it’s clearly not an option.

“the only way forward is through science and innovation”: if science & innovation is what you call forward, then obviously yes, but that’s just a tautology. What is your measure of “forward”? If it’s power over nature, advancements, … then for sure. If it’s respecting this earth and not long term ruining the entire planet… how sure are you about that?

“limiting roundup”: ah, an innovation that should be limited. What went wrong that it was globally used before we were sure enough about its side effects? How sure are you about all the current innovations that they don’t have similar issues? How sure are you about this bee superfood not having disastrous long term effects?

If you ignore all the issues with it though, innovation is incredible for sure!

I’m interested in your opinion, but can you like maybe not just post a personal attack, and explain why you think what the guy you replied to is stupid?

From my experience, what he describes really reflects what we see happening in the world all the time. layers of layers of us causing issues, and then solving them with more technologies, creating new problems, etc… etc… etc…

And the big bet is that we’re not digging ourselves into a very deep hole. In the end, the existential threat of global warming is one of the examples. We kept solving problems with burning more & more burning of fossil fuels, and then suddenly “o crap”.

Same here, i’ve got plenty of devices running linux, and i might give it a chance again for my daily driver, but i know it will be a complete pain in the ass, and waste a lot of my time…

No it isn’t, Windows has got a ton of developers making sure non technical users don’t get stuck easily, and it mostly just works. The linux desktop is just of inferior quality, and fragmented like hell. “Linux” doesn’t even exist when you talk about the desktop, which of the hundreds of distros are you talking about? each with their own undocumented annoyances and problems regular users will just get stuck on. A nightmarish landscape of package managers, or just installing packages. For all the correct annoyances about apple/windows walled gardens, they got one thing right: if it says it runs on windows/mac, it’s extremely likely to just work for you. If it says it runs on linux, is it on the package manager your distro uses? who knows. If you can just download the package, will it work? who knows. You know what i don’t have to worry about if i find a windows app? If it will run on windows. Maybe with truly ancient apps it can be an issue, but even there the backwards compatibility they offer is pretty insane.

You can live in your imaginary world where “Linux is awesome”. But i see myself, and colleagues who’ve grown up with computers (millenials, so the generation that actually had to use them), that give linux a try, and it’s just a freaking nightmare. From endless distro choices that boil down to “pick your poison”, as there will always be something bad about them, and things you really want that don’t work, to all kinds of silly & annoying issues. (a colleague that’s really technical now had the privilege of encountering an issue with fedora based distros that for some reason fails to properly install grub. So you run through the entire installer, and at the end you have a pc that doesn’t boot. It’s a known issue on certain configurations, they haven’t fixed it yet. You know what doesn’t happen with Windows/Mac? such things)

Do you have more concrete examples? I’m reasonably familiar with OpenXML, and seeing the date issues in microsoft systems (Excel having the same bug that considers 1900 a leap year, to stay compatible with Lotus Notes), i can imagine them redefining everything just to be in full control ^^'…

The point i guess with the main OS’s like windows/macOS, is that microsoft/apple put in the time to support most edge cases, and most things you can try either work, or aren’t that hard to make work (assuming you don’t go against things they try to force. But that’s not something that most users we’re talking about here do). So for windows, want to install that app for windows XP from 20 years ago? no problem. As mentioned in the article here: want to install that up to date program made for another distro? good luck…

And that’s in the end what it boils down to… It’s a fragmented ecosystem, and many slightly advanced things require that you understand how your computer & OS work. Things that a slightly advanced user can handle in Windows via some UI, will most likely be far harder on linux…

I’d love to use a linux desktop more, but sadly my time is also precious, and i just don’t have the motivation to use it fighting with the linux desktop >_<…

I’ve heard this comment about OpenXML (the xml format of the office documents) before, and i’m a bit on the fence about it.

It’s of course indeed ridiculously complex, but so is office. Microsoft both adds a shit ton of functionality to their documents, and keeps an impressive amount of backwards compatibility.

In the past i heard complaints about part of the OpenXML spec that also allows older binary data in there for backwards compatibility reasons, which of course means for OSS implementations that they don’t just have to implement this spec, but also the older spec that came before to be truly compatible with everything a modern office version can open.

But on the other hand, if i look at it from the side of Microsoft, they opened up their format, they’ve got a gazillion functionalities, should they remove functionality to appease the open source developers? If so which? Should they stop being backwards compatible with documents of decades ago to appease the open source developers? If so how long should they support? Are you going to tell their customers?

Office is an immense program with an immense amount of legacy features, backwards compatibility, …

It’s incredibly complex by nature. And might they have made the format more complex to dissuade competition? Could be. However, in this instance Occam’s razor pushes me more to “write a huge program over a timespan of many decades, with thousands upon thousands of programmers working on it, and you’ll indeed most likely end up with something very complex…”

Then i don’t know what you’re doing with your computer, but every time i use linux, all those things that are “awesome and just work on linux” somehow still have lots of annoying gotchas that waste too much of my time.

I’ve got some nice linux servers running that i’m really happy with. But once you go for the linux desktop, it’s just a world of pain compared to windows, no matter how you look at it. I’m more than experienced enough to get it running in the end, but claiming that linux “just works” is delusional…

Just the fact of how the ecosystem is fractured (which is also mentioned in the article here, with running a debian package on fedora), is already something that’ll make it too complicated for a lot of people to handle. And even the things “that just work”, just don’t. For example, i’ve got a steamdeck like device now, with bazzite (steamos like OS). Yes, it’s amazing at running windows games in linux. I heard so many people say how with proton “running windows games on linux just works”. If you stick to the ultra popular games, it for sure does. Go to a game that’s a bit older or lesser known, and no it isn’t. Make time to figure out settings to get it to run, tinker with controller mappings, and in the end, it might just still not work. And pretty much everything on linux feels that way, the initial impression is decent. If you stay on the safe path, it’ll work pretty well. Do something a bit less common: you’re on your own.

And that’s its commonly accepted for trolls to blame the user, and be like “it’s free, so accept it the way it is” when someone dares to ask questions or … even… (do i dare say it?)… complain… Doesn’t make for the most constructive environment…

Linux has achieved many great things, but the linux desktop sure has its use if you’re willing to spend your time on it, but acting as if it’s a better experience than the windows desktop is just delusional. There’s no other way to put it.

Isn’t it likely the police is kind of right?

I mean, how many people in that community used grapheneos phones before the drug dealers figured out how good they were for their purposes? So in that community, it’s indeed very likely that a grapheneos user is in a drug gang.

Does that mean that grapheneos is an issue, or bad? Not at all. But i see a lot of digs at the police here at how dumb they are. But if literally most grapheneos users there are drug dealers, is it dumb? It’s just a plain observation that’s pretty correct.

And it’s kind of logical that proper open source tools that are not full of spyware are better for also such purposes. Doesn’t make these tools a problem. If a politician would now start a crusade against such operating systems, that i would agree is dumb.

But i don’t see an issue with police somewhere realizing that drugdealers use a specific tool, and focusing on that. Of course sucks for the couple of regular users there that just do it to have control over their device…

I love how the title is basically also the problem.

Who the fuck has some obscure library that is the basis of many other tools as their “favourite project”, even though it might be a fundamental part of many other things that are actually the favourites of people.

I get that the lemmings here are enthousiastic about linux, but even as a developer, every time i work with linux, i end up facing the most annoying user hostile problems >_<…

Since this is gaming related, and i just faced one today: I bought a Legion Go (steamdeck like device), and put bazzite on it (steamos like os). And was trying to run visual pinball on it, which actually has a linux build. Try to run the linux build: shared library libbz2.so.1.0 not found… Google around a bit: a yes, because that’s a fedora distro, unlike most other distros, they named it libbz2.so.1 . But many apps assume libbz2.so.1.0 also exists so try to use that. Fair enough, i’ll add a link with that name. Ah yes, this is a distro with a readonly filesystem. Lucklily as a dev i realized i can probably put the link in the folder of the program itself, and that indeed worked.

But ffs linux world, why do you fuck up such basic things like just agreeing on how you name basic shared dll’s (googling for it i found people struggling with this when using python, so it’s not something that rarely happens)…

I love the control linux offers, and got NAS and a little server running linux, and for the handheld it’ll probably give me more battery life or performance too, so linux for sure has some benefits.

But if you have to be an expert just to get things f’ing made for linux to run due to stupid stuff like this… whyyyyyy???

As with Star Citizen, just add it as a non-Steam game and viola.

You need a viola these days to run a game on linux?

And people are wondering why Linux is less popular :p

Indeed, that’s why i hate it that so many people here are raging about this while it’s something both sides are doing…

I get all the Trump & conservatives hate, but sometimes this community is raging over something that’s just done by both sides… So being outraged about it is pretty hypocritical…

Is indeed a fine example. Keeps raising the same questions: is it ok to rewrite books? We’re supposed to be outraged when maga does it, but it’s ok if we do it?