Just wait for the next version of insert-non-debian-linux-distro and you won’t be able to boot after trying an update. :)
I find it very interesting that I always see a lot of people complaining about those kinds of updates breaking Windows all the time. In my experience I’ve only seen it happening with old ass , cheap hardware computers. Never had issues myself with mid range and hardware from reputable brands. If you’ve a computer from Aliexpress or some Chinese brand, oh well, you get what you payed for.
I run both on the same machine in VMs, had this fedora install since 2019 and kept up with the version upgrades every year. Its just worked without issue during that whole period. I use office in the web app.
Windows is there to run cad/cam software. It feels more gross with all the candy crush etc that you have to remove, but it works fine to run the software I need it for.
What’s with all the hyperbole above? Did someone hurt you?
And now you suddenly have to manage two operating systems with all their quirks. Nice!
Going full Linux desktop kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.
Why not just give in an manage A SINGLE yet productive OS that is widely supported by every vender and tool you might need? To Microsoft’s credit they made WSL and Windows Terminal very well and it’s way easier to run the 1 or 2 Linux-only applications on those than the other way around.
Err OK. I passthrough a card to each, switch with KVM. Its like having 2 native machines. According to you I have loads of issues, I guess I just haven’t found them yet?
What should I be giving in to?
This is really weird,
ps, I sometimes game on either system, still can’t tell any performance difference from when it was bare metal. I guess I could be super lucky considering all those issues I should be having. Or maybe things aren’t quite as dramatic as you’ve portrayed them
How are you getting your video back into the main system? Some kind of remote desktop protocol? That adds delay. Unless your VM is attached to e dedicated screen you’ll have issues there.
The host is headless, no video output. The 2 VMs have a GPU passed directly through vfio, so there is no additional delay. Both GPUs connect to the same 2 monitors and USB by a KVM, so its one button press to flip between systems.
Though I often run the cad software over RDP, as a little extra latency when using that doesn’t bother me.
Just wait for the next version of insert-non-debian-linux-distro and you won’t be able to boot after trying an update. :)
I find it very interesting that I always see a lot of people complaining about those kinds of updates breaking Windows all the time. In my experience I’ve only seen it happening with old ass , cheap hardware computers. Never had issues myself with mid range and hardware from reputable brands. If you’ve a computer from Aliexpress or some Chinese brand, oh well, you get what you payed for.
Sure buddy, I’ll take your unsourced claim as an equivalent to my sourced one! /s
Do you know what anecdotal evidence is?
This is some weird tribal emotional stuff.
I run both on the same machine in VMs, had this fedora install since 2019 and kept up with the version upgrades every year. Its just worked without issue during that whole period. I use office in the web app. Windows is there to run cad/cam software. It feels more gross with all the candy crush etc that you have to remove, but it works fine to run the software I need it for.
What’s with all the hyperbole above? Did someone hurt you?
And now you suddenly have to manage two operating systems with all their quirks. Nice!
Going full Linux desktop kinda adds the same pains of going macOS but 10x. Once you open the virtualization door your productivity suffers greatly, your CPU/RAM requirements are higher and suddenly you’ve to deal with issues in two operating systems instead of just one. And… let’s face it, nothing with GPU acceleration will ever run decently unless big companies start fixing things - GPU passthroughs and getting video back into the main system are a pain and add delays.
Why not just give in an manage A SINGLE yet productive OS that is widely supported by every vender and tool you might need? To Microsoft’s credit they made WSL and Windows Terminal very well and it’s way easier to run the 1 or 2 Linux-only applications on those than the other way around.
Err OK. I passthrough a card to each, switch with KVM. Its like having 2 native machines. According to you I have loads of issues, I guess I just haven’t found them yet? What should I be giving in to?
This is really weird,
ps, I sometimes game on either system, still can’t tell any performance difference from when it was bare metal. I guess I could be super lucky considering all those issues I should be having. Or maybe things aren’t quite as dramatic as you’ve portrayed them
How are you getting your video back into the main system? Some kind of remote desktop protocol? That adds delay. Unless your VM is attached to e dedicated screen you’ll have issues there.
The host is headless, no video output. The 2 VMs have a GPU passed directly through vfio, so there is no additional delay. Both GPUs connect to the same 2 monitors and USB by a KVM, so its one button press to flip between systems. Though I often run the cad software over RDP, as a little extra latency when using that doesn’t bother me.
There you go.