• BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    DRM-free doesn’t mean piracy. GOGs whole business model is built around selling games DRM free. I don’t pirate but I do use GOG where possible as I hate DRM - it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem. DRM is just an expensive waste of money for everyone involved.

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      The drm-free marketing that gog does has been successful, but it is just marketing. While It’s true that games sold on gog are drm-free, every game sold on gog that I’ve looked into is also drm-free on steam. The only real benefit is that the gog installers are more convenient for backups than using a steam back up tool.

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        Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s a lot of peace of mind in knowing everything on the platform is drm free, rather than having to do some research. So it is marketing, but it’s also a promise of curation so to speak.

      • Maven (famous)@lemmy.world
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        GOG is also a filter too. Everything in the whole store you know is DRM free when with other stores you have to check each game individually.

        Steam is also a form of DRM in most cases though either way.

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            So it’s possible to download the installer through steam, store it somewhere and ten years later I can just start the installer without having steam on my system?

            Asking out of curiosity, I don’t use steam, I never thought that would be possible?

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              You can copy the entire game folder and run it that way, as long as the game is actually DRM free it should work just fine.

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      Yeah, anytime someone mentions just punishes users, I’m reminded of the time this was really driven home for me.

      I was working for a company that did developed tools that worked adjacent to other software and needed to install one piece of software to test my component intended for that program. After using that software at work, I decided to also use it to generate data for a personal project I was doing for fun at home and pirated it.

      At work, we obviously used a legit copy and had a business partnership with the company. Their DRM required a dongle and running server software on the machine with the dongle that would issue licenses to clients. I forget the specifics, but we had some problems and it took a few weeks of emailing back and forth with someone from support before I was actually able to get the software running.

      At home, I just ran a crack and had it running the same day I decided to use it.

      All their fancy DRM just turned into a pain in the ass for the legitimate use and a complete non-issue for those doing what it was intended to prevent in the first place.

    • ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem.

      IDK about that, the only person who can crack denuvo is empress and she doesn’t crack all games, so I guess it atleast reduces piracy for a while. I agree however that DRM shouldn’t exist.

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        AFAIK there are devs who remove Denuvo as soon as their game gets cracked, and tbh I don’t have too many complaints about that system. That being said, I don’t own any games with Denuvo, so I don’t know why it’s hated so much.

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          Because it reduces performance. There is no benefit to the consumer. Your game experience is measurably worse because of it.

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              I like to use steam deck when I travel. Denuvo can refuse to launch without internet connection to reactivate a license. Also if you exceed 5 activations in a day you can’t play the game for 24 hours. This includes switching which proton version you use to launch the game, which is sometimes necessary if something like the audio doesn’t work properly on the default.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/wymoi9/psa_for_denuvo/

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              No, and it runs denuvo games fine. It’s things like EAC or EA Anti-Cheat that break on Deck/Linux.

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                I think most people understand that DRM and Anti Cheat are done for 2 completely different reasons.

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                  Well, in the context of the Steam Deck, DRM works fine and anti-cheats often don’t.

    • Mambabasa@slrpnk.netOP
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      To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)

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        How is the meme acknowledging that GOG installers are shared in groups? This doesn’t say anything about sharing anything in a group, other than “My game has no DRM, and yours does”

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      I guess they don’t realize GOG is DRM free as part of their business model?

      Probably because they think DRM=anti pirate and not “You don’t actually own this”

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        Selling only DRM-free games has always be GOG’s whole thing (well, that and selling oldies compatible with modern OS), it’s weird that this meme specifically would be considered “aknowledging piracy”

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      It’s because the original image macro that this is based on was about piracy, saying something along the lines of “I bring a certain ‘just torrent it’ vibe to the conversion that the riaa just doesn’t like.”

      Their reuse of the macro is indirectly an answer or a continuation of it that can be seen as acknowledging the original message.

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      Everything nowadays that attempts to give back a little autonomy or freedom to the user is called piracy.

      As long as an app could theoretically be used for piracy, even if it was made to circumvent toxic behavior of users’ bought and paid for products, then it must be properly labelled as piracy and taken down.

      I’ll better stop before this becomes a rant.

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      To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)

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        My friend, I regret to inform you that you are misunderstanding the meme

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          Yeah that seems like a bit of a stretch. That meme read to me like “Oh, you’re having problems with the DRM? I don’t have that problem,” not “Hey guys, here’s the GOG installer for X game.”

          Otherwise, why would the other people in the group chat not like the vibe?

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    OP doesn’t understand the difference between piracy and drm-free.

    But hey, looks like the advertising is working on you to promote GOG so good on them for a successful tweet.

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        DRM punishes paying customers. DRM free is the best choice for anyone who enjoys games, and supporting the devs is the best way to get more games you enjoy.

        DRM free isn’t pro-piracy it is pro-consumer.

        I couldn’t give a shit what pirates are doing. I pay for my games and I don’t want DRM ruining my experience.

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          Couldn’t be more right. I went 100% on GoG after not being able to play the Steam games I wanted to play during an internet outage because of dumb always online requirement.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    6 months ago

    GOG doesn’t really have pirated games or any of that gray market nonsense. It is on the same level as steam in terms of it being a first party seller

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    I own and buy games from GOG. Especially if its a game i like. That way its actually mine. I hope they never change.

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    GOG is always my first choice to buy games.
    It’s a bit frustrating that you have to dive into the forum and check whether the developers actually maintain their GOG release properly before buying though.

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      The way I see it, if you’ve bought a game from GOG you’ve already paid, so no one can truthfully say in good faith that subsequently grabbing a cracked version of the Steam release is a lost sale.

    • Mambabasa@slrpnk.netOP
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      To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)