Okay so multiply all the other problems I listed by how many therapists I have to try and no they can’t solve my problems unless they’re gonna buy me a house or pay off my debts or something so I can actually get ahead financially.
No, a therapist will not give you money. What they could do is identify why you don’t have the money you need, then help you plan and execute the steps to accomplish your goal. If your goal is more money, I’d guess they would ask you if you are looking for a higher-paying job, then discuss what steps you can take to improve that process, with a focus on mental hurdles you may not even realize you’re putting in your way.
Unless those steps are overthrowing the rich then I think the person you are talking to is correct. This is a money problem not a psychological problem and most money problems are because of capitalism. Get a higher paying job? FFS what actually makes one job more valuable than another? It sure isn’t how essential it is as plenty of high pay jobs are things like finance bros.
No, the steps would probably be more along the lines of refreshing your resume, maybe setting up an appointment to have it professionally reviewed, getting a habit of applying for jobs going, stuff that materially contributes to having more money. A therapist might tell you that overthrowing the rich is a little too vague a plan to actually act on.
I specifically said higher-paying instead of a “better” job because it’s not necessarily going to be a more fun or world-improving position. But if money is what you need and the job you apply for has a higher pay rate than the one you have now it will likely lead to you having more money, regardless of the greater economic climate.
No, the steps would probably be more along the lines of refreshing your resume, maybe setting up an appointment to have it professionally reviewed, getting a habit of applying for jobs going, stuff that materially contributes to having more money. A therapist might tell you that overthrowing the rich is a little too vague a plan to actually act on.
So the solution the therapist has is to hire a career counselor? That’s not them solving anything, that’s them passing the buck to someone else that will cost me even more money and time. Beside the fact that I already know how to ladder climb and am currently in a position that pays well above what most of my peers are making and is above the credentials I have on paper so I have to rely on networking for any new opportunities (which again i’m doing better than most of my network so they don’t have a lot to offer at this point). There really isn’t anywhere for me to go up from here without moving to a place that is even more expensive to live.
The real issue is that inflation is out of control and housing is too expensive. My best bet of ever owning a home is waiting for my parents to die and inherit theirs and that thing is shitty new construction that was slapped together as quickly and cheaply as possible and will probably be falling apart by then.
Yes, in the hypothetical scenario where you are applying for positions but not hearing back and it has become frustrating, my theoretical therapist might suggest you get in touch with someone specialized in helping with that, and then if you continue to not do so while stressing over the state of your resume their job would be to help you take that step.
Evidently that’s not your problem, which I could not be aware of, being a stranger on the internet before your explanation of your situation. Sorry my example did not perfectly address your situation.
I don’t know how a therapist would react to your circumstances of being able to make more money but still not making enough because that is rather foreign to me, but I can tell you one thing. If you are holding down a job above your credentials, you are no longer holding down a job above your credentials, you are now holding down a job at your current level of credentials and I would recommend updating your papers to reflect that.
Yeah this guy is consistently defecting and giving bad advice. I don’t think they have any experience with the current job market, economy, or just the state of capitalism in general. Psychologists aren’t even the right people to go to here, you need a career specialist for that. If they said to get more qualifications instead that would make more sense, but clearly they just want to add therapy to everything as if that’s gonna fix it.
If I want to gain more qualifications but never actually spend time working on them, if I want a better resume but never even look up a phone number to call, do you think a therapist could help me get moving on those things I want to do?
What I was trying to say is that if you already have a job above your qualifications, which my understanding is you do, you can use your experience in that job as a qualification for future jobs. Maybe I did a poor job of saying that.
That’s not how that works unfortunately. Job requirements change, different businesses have different requirements, and furthermore you probably need to look at a more advanced job for more money which requires more qualifications. For example in the tech industry jobs that you could get with experience or working up through a company now requires a degree because there are more people working in tech with degrees now. It’s supply and demand to put it simply.
@areyouevenreal bought some bitcoin once? cryto analyst!
asked chatgpt something once? AI LLM prompting
downloaded a movie on bittorrent? distributed networking!
Stop trying to fit therapy to every problem. That’s not what it’s for. The best advice would be to upskill and gain qualifications - which not everyone can afford. Stop trying to ignore physical reality and claim the economy and everything is fine when it clearly isn’t. Admit there are problems and actually do something about it! Complain to politicians, unionize, strike.
Telling people to go to therapy for economic and financial problems is maybe the dumbest thing I have heard unless you have a problem with impulsive purchases or the like.
Okay so multiply all the other problems I listed by how many therapists I have to try and no they can’t solve my problems unless they’re gonna buy me a house or pay off my debts or something so I can actually get ahead financially.
No, a therapist will not give you money. What they could do is identify why you don’t have the money you need, then help you plan and execute the steps to accomplish your goal. If your goal is more money, I’d guess they would ask you if you are looking for a higher-paying job, then discuss what steps you can take to improve that process, with a focus on mental hurdles you may not even realize you’re putting in your way.
Unless those steps are overthrowing the rich then I think the person you are talking to is correct. This is a money problem not a psychological problem and most money problems are because of capitalism. Get a higher paying job? FFS what actually makes one job more valuable than another? It sure isn’t how essential it is as plenty of high pay jobs are things like finance bros.
No, the steps would probably be more along the lines of refreshing your resume, maybe setting up an appointment to have it professionally reviewed, getting a habit of applying for jobs going, stuff that materially contributes to having more money. A therapist might tell you that overthrowing the rich is a little too vague a plan to actually act on.
I specifically said higher-paying instead of a “better” job because it’s not necessarily going to be a more fun or world-improving position. But if money is what you need and the job you apply for has a higher pay rate than the one you have now it will likely lead to you having more money, regardless of the greater economic climate.
So the solution the therapist has is to hire a career counselor? That’s not them solving anything, that’s them passing the buck to someone else that will cost me even more money and time. Beside the fact that I already know how to ladder climb and am currently in a position that pays well above what most of my peers are making and is above the credentials I have on paper so I have to rely on networking for any new opportunities (which again i’m doing better than most of my network so they don’t have a lot to offer at this point). There really isn’t anywhere for me to go up from here without moving to a place that is even more expensive to live.
The real issue is that inflation is out of control and housing is too expensive. My best bet of ever owning a home is waiting for my parents to die and inherit theirs and that thing is shitty new construction that was slapped together as quickly and cheaply as possible and will probably be falling apart by then.
Yes, in the hypothetical scenario where you are applying for positions but not hearing back and it has become frustrating, my theoretical therapist might suggest you get in touch with someone specialized in helping with that, and then if you continue to not do so while stressing over the state of your resume their job would be to help you take that step.
Evidently that’s not your problem, which I could not be aware of, being a stranger on the internet before your explanation of your situation. Sorry my example did not perfectly address your situation.
I don’t know how a therapist would react to your circumstances of being able to make more money but still not making enough because that is rather foreign to me, but I can tell you one thing. If you are holding down a job above your credentials, you are no longer holding down a job above your credentials, you are now holding down a job at your current level of credentials and I would recommend updating your papers to reflect that.
By credentials I mean a degree and experience with particular tasks/applications. I can’t just change that on my resume if I don’t have it.
Yeah this guy is consistently defecting and giving bad advice. I don’t think they have any experience with the current job market, economy, or just the state of capitalism in general. Psychologists aren’t even the right people to go to here, you need a career specialist for that. If they said to get more qualifications instead that would make more sense, but clearly they just want to add therapy to everything as if that’s gonna fix it.
If I want to gain more qualifications but never actually spend time working on them, if I want a better resume but never even look up a phone number to call, do you think a therapist could help me get moving on those things I want to do?
What I was trying to say is that if you already have a job above your qualifications, which my understanding is you do, you can use your experience in that job as a qualification for future jobs. Maybe I did a poor job of saying that.
That’s not how that works unfortunately. Job requirements change, different businesses have different requirements, and furthermore you probably need to look at a more advanced job for more money which requires more qualifications. For example in the tech industry jobs that you could get with experience or working up through a company now requires a degree because there are more people working in tech with degrees now. It’s supply and demand to put it simply.
@jaycifer @lightnsfw try adding “crypto” “AI” “decentralized” “quantum” to your resume
It feels bad that this could actually work for some places.
@areyouevenreal bought some bitcoin once? cryto analyst!
asked chatgpt something once? AI LLM prompting
downloaded a movie on bittorrent? distributed networking!
Stop trying to fit therapy to every problem. That’s not what it’s for. The best advice would be to upskill and gain qualifications - which not everyone can afford. Stop trying to ignore physical reality and claim the economy and everything is fine when it clearly isn’t. Admit there are problems and actually do something about it! Complain to politicians, unionize, strike.
Telling people to go to therapy for economic and financial problems is maybe the dumbest thing I have heard unless you have a problem with impulsive purchases or the like.