I’ved tried a decent amount (caprover, cosmoscloud, dokploy, coolify, yunohost, etc.) and there always seems to be more around the corner . Right now I like runtipi, tho I have some issues (komga cant detect my media folder), it’s been the easiest for me to quickly try out many different selfhostable apps on one server. I didn’t know many of these apps existed, there are so many different useful and entertaining ones for different niches/jobs.
Whats your favorite self hosting manager thats capable of one-quick installs through an appstore of some kind? Which one do you think is the easiest to use for non technical users? I’m leaning towards Yunohost for ease of use and setup, but a lot of stuff was out of date. Downside is it doesn’t seem nearly as easy as the others to setup/manage apps yourself if you dont go the appstore route. Runtipi did recentlly make it so people can make and share repos for the appstore, tho I believe cosmos cloud and a few others already have had this as an option.
Honestly?
Set it up according to the dev’s recommendations (and Docker, of course), then you can configure pretty much any application that uses Docker and docker-compose within Dockge. It’s far simpler than Portainer, and runs within Docker’s limitations instead of yoloing your configs in random locations (like Portainer does). Plus it’s free, and made by the same dev as Uptime Kuma.
I read your post last night, thought I’d reply this morning and am disappointed in the replies you’ve already had. So you’ve got issues with your self hosting, and it annoys people you haven’t figured out the solution?!? Odd.
Anyway, well done on recommending Runtipi as I’ve never heard of it and looks interesting. I’m on the look out for things to recommend to people, and that looks good.
As for what else there is, there was a thread here this week asking similar, and lots got mentioned in there. I’m too lazy to find the link, but dig about on the 1st page. Most have already been repeated in here already.
I think self hosting is a journey, where you learn as you go. It’s all part of the fun of it. And perhaps using a platform that has a healthy amount of solutions already posted is the key for you rather than focussing on a one-click interface. I myself use Unraid, and that community is full of Q&A for every type of user.
I’ve somehow never heard of unraid in my search, its got a ton of community apps damn, lemmy too, only really seen an up to dateish one in yunohost, oh is it more for actual at home server self hosting? I’m more of a vps renter right now.
I wouldn’t really recommend UnRAID outside of it being a NAS. The App Store functionality is very active and nice but most things aren’t really one click. I love my bare metal UnRAID box but there are better options for your cloud servers.
I guess there is no one-size-fits-all for self hosting. We all have different requirements. Mine is NAS based, so hence Unraid. I think mostly we all rotate around the core of photo storage, and Immich is likely what’s fuelling a lot of self hosting now as it’s a legit alternative to Google Photos. As I’ve moved out of the Google eco system now for everything; it creeps me out to think how much of my information they used to have access to.
I like one click for quickly trialling stuff, its legit 15 seconds after clicking install for some of these apps to be ready to play around with, I think longterm id look towards a solution I have more control over, so I can keep stuff up to date (or avoid updates) myself and not rely on others.
I don’t like the phrase “one click” because it’s never really literally only one click, and whenever it’s even close to that there’s just too much stuff going on in the background that a) requires tons of work to code, b) is fragile, c) can never account for all use case etc etc etc
With that in mind I recently installed Debian Stable on my VPS, chose “Web server” during installation, and voilá: it serves!
Yunohost and cosmoscloud typically required entering a lot of info prior to install to, depends on the app I guess
Lol thats why I put the " ", runtipi is 2 clicks? Unless you want to expose it the web then you type in your address I guess.
diet pi counts right? most of the software in their managed repo is a straightforward install and largely preconfigured for daily use. It was my first server OS and im very fond of it
Cloudron is similar to yunohost but its a paid service so things are a bit more polished and up to date
CasaOS is like a slimmed down cosmos by the looks of it
Last time I looked it had way less features then yunohost and its closed source.
Cloudrons the most expensive one ive seen, that price usually comes with hosting, and only 1 server at 30$ a month wild lol
Casaos market is avilable as a repo in cosmos
I’m all in on Cosmos Cloud, been very happy with it
Cosmos Cloud has been great for me. I’m not technical but I enjoy learning and have been completely bitten by the self hosting bug. I’d consider myself fairly new to Linux and the cli so it really helped to bridge the gap. All I had to do was install Debian server and Cosmos Cloud and within a day I had a few services and it was thrilling to me. There have been problems along the way (mostly networking and DNS related stuff outside of Cosmos Cloud) but I’ve learned a lot through troubleshooting. I appreciate the built in security features like easily configurable Letsencrypt certificates, anti-bot, and anti-DDOS, because that was all a bit above my head.
What do you host through it
My first time I started winging it with a raspberry pi, docker, and nginx and it took me like 2 months to get one service up and running and I didn’t feel it was very secure - fail2ban didn’t work, geoblocking didn’t work, and updates were manual.
When I re-started from scratch with an x86 device and cosmos it has been shockingly easy in comparison. Not only is it much quicker to spool the service up (app store), they can be automatically updated, the proxy has options for geoblocking, rate limiting, etc.
I’ve even got some of the services below built from a custom compose file instead of the app store, some use remote storage and some are set up with OAuth SSO. There’s still mild troubleshooting for a lot of things but it’s been much easier for me to understand and fix issues, plus there’s an active discord community as well.
In regards to komga, it wouldnt show up in logs becuase it wasnt an error, got a reply on discord, and I needed to add a custom config,took 2 minutes, didn’t know that was the issue since I’d never done it before. Looked in the docker compose and whoever set up the app did it wrong and didn’t mount the media volume like every other apps docker compose did. (you are supposed to for runtipi apps)
Just invest the five minutes to read the docker compose instructions.
It aint that hard.It isn’t hard when every works perfectly but there is a tremendous amount of complexity in some of these apps and a huge range of quality, documentation and required env vars and mounts.
And so, so many ways for things to break.
I dont want to fill them out every time when testing 50 different apps? Im pretty sure I mention its for trying stuff out in the post, my bad if I didnt, it takes literally 5 minutes to install 10 apps and try them out lol
Totally fair.
But the devs usually provide a docker compose and .env to demo as well.I modified it, the person who contributed the app did it wrong, ngl I assumed itd be harder and more time consuming than the minute it took
WireGuard?
Right now im using runtipi for Kavita (komga wasnt finding my folder)and Kapowarr, to get comics, kavita and komga let you make a repo you can use from your phone/tablet (mihon app extension) to read your comics. (and not deal with losing them when sites go down since its off your own server)
Main reason I did this instead of just downloading to my microsd on my tablet was I often want to find stuff to read on my phone and then read them off my tablet, had no easy way to do it, would make a list and then search them all again. Now I just open kapowarr on my phone and add whatever I want, its automatically searched/downloaded and then kavita checks that folder. Mihon has a kavita (and komga, but runtipis didnt work) extension that lets you use your server as a repo so it automatically becomes available on my tablet later when I want to read it.
This took 15 minutes to setup, each one installed in 30 seconds, wondering if any other panel/manager thing has these 3 available as one click installs? Just want to know my options if any others exist.
People seem to really like 1Panel.
apt/dnf
I don’t mean to be a downer here, but the phrasing and tone of your post makes me think you’re angry that it’s not just as simple as pressing a button and having it all work. That is not their point of intent.
You’re complaining about something not seeing your media folder, but seem to not understand why. That’s your first problem. Dig into the logs and docs and figure out why maybe.
For those wanting everything to be like an app store…not gonna happen. The variables involved in just being connected to the Internet alone, LET ALONE being able to route traffic to your installs and serve traffic properly seems way above the level of effort you choose to dedicate to understanding it.
If you want simple “one-click” stuff, then just go for that. That’s why PaaS exists. They make a platform easier to use, so you don’t have to fuck with stuff.
If you’re just here to complain that everything isn’t super easy for you, there is a simple solution to that…
Since you want to be of assistance please let me know whats going on lol, and to clarify my post I like runtip, there are just hella of these panels (I just now started trying them out) and I want to know about more of them and what people are using.As I said in my comment…LOGS.
Learn more about what the actual error is and why it’s not working.
Like its a configuration error, its not one click if I have to set up my own repo and app for it to work, so I use kavita instead, not a big deal they do the same thing for the most part lol
See I think you actually arent competent because this is something that wouldn’t have logs lol
Why wouldn’t it have logs?
just did the action of adding library and looking fir the folder and the log didnt even record anything, if I scan the log gets stuff popping up but i cant see the folder I want to scan in the first place so the log is useless?
Its not an error, the logs wouldnt be related to it, wouldn’t something have to run? I can view the logs im 99% sure there wont be any relevant info, it shows paths just not the runtipi folder which is what is typically the only folder exposed to runtipi apps, instead I can see the rest of my servers directory and the root folder shows as empty
I dont even know what you’re talking about tbh, Im just asking what one click app stores ppl like, there are a lot of devs out there trying to simplify/streamline the process? There are no issues with the logs because there are no errors, its literally just clicking add path in the library and the path doesn’t have the folders and it doesn’t scan while kavita the folder appears and scans lol
I’m not angry about anything, the other apps work, the path simply doesn’t show up, if I click on root its empty while every other app has access to a runtipi folder in there, kavita worked fine, just komga for the same task didn’t.
Your desktop user doesn’t have access to root…
That might be why.
