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  • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    Target’s CEO pay ratio now stands at 753 to 1, with median employee pay at $27,090.

    I found the problem!

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      So every single day this guy makes TWO YEARS of wages for his median worker. Every year on the job, he makes over a DOZEN LIFETIMES of wages for the median worker at his company.

      Seeing the hundreds-to-one ratio shows that there’s a big difference, sure, but mapping that to the time comparison really puts it into perspective. Kind of like how a million seconds is 11 days and a billion seconds is 31 god damned years.

      It’s never going to be a surprise that the head of a company gets paid more than the other employees, but let’s not pretend that their ridiculous compensation is “what I earned” versus “what I could get away with.”

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        But someone will tell me that Us v. Rich people isn’t the only battle that matters. Literally everything gets easier to face if we just eliminate the battle we have with rich people.

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        Yeesh, you’re exactly right that this is the right way to think about it and thank you for pointing it out that way. Absolutely disgusting, I can’t believe we all allow this. I’m pretty fuckin good at math and those timescales and numbers are just not intuitive, I’m always surprised with figures like these, even though I’ve seen em before. If people knew, really knew this stuff, I have to believe it would change.

        Anyone “earning” like this while the people (and their families) propping up these fiefdoms sacrifice and struggle the way they’re forced to - anyone doing so is de facto amoral. I’d go so far as to say deserving immediate death, no further evidence needed.

        But maybe that’s the 4 beers my old ass had tonight making me feel spicy, lol.

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    Oh no! His salary was slashed 50% to only $9M?!?!? How does the poor dear survive?

    Most of us survive on less than 1% of that. Yay! We’re One Percenters!

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    I saw CEO and chopped in one sentence and I thought the guillotines have finally come out. It’s a good start, I guess.

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    He still “earned” 753x more than the median Target salary. Crushing, I am sure. How will he ever survive?

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      Not even the slightest uplifting.

      Stock holders and owners are probably dictating these changes. Not the CEO alone.

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          It’s mostly “here’s some bad stuff happening to someone I don’t like” so it’s a bunch of schadenfreude.

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            It’s a stretch, but you could say it’s uplifting that other retail CEOs can see this and learn from it

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        It was dictated when his pay package was approved by the board. Since they haven’t shitcanned him they must not be too disappointed or not willing to pay for his exit package.

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    Cornell, who has led the Minneapolis-based retail chain since 2014, received $9.9 million in total compensation for 2024, an 87% drop from his 2020 peak of $77.5 million.

    What the actual fuck? Why are humans being paid $10m A YEAR, let alone over $75m?!

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      I love breaking down these huge salaries into 2 week chunks because I think it brings the disparity into perspective more for people since most of us get paid 2x a month.

      For $75 million that is a twice a week paycheck (I know CEOs don’t get paid this way) of $3,125,000!

      That’s the total of 1000 employees 2 week paychecks if they all made ~ $40 an hour

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        What it must be like to be able to retire after your onboarding seninar.

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          When you put it that way, that’s fucking insane. $2 million in retirement plus having my house paid off has always been my retirement goal. Granted, by the time I reach that goal, inflation and the cost of living will probably make that not enough.

          Still, to think this asshat makes that in less than 2 weeks is fucking ridiculous. Like why even work at that point? I realize “work” for a CEO is mostly golfing and expensive dinners, but still…

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        $75,000,000 ÷ 26 = $2,884,614

        $2.8 million every 2 weeks, not $3.125 million twice a week.

        The reality is bad enough without exaggeration.

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            That is exactly what I did. I’m not a maths person. So maybe me trying to do math in a internet comment section wasn’t the best decision.

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        wait, where in the world is it common to get paid twice a month? we got rid of that in like the 70s…

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          US based here. My wife gets paid on the 15th and last day of the month (28,29,30, or 31st). So she could have anywhere from 9-12 working days each check. I am paid every other week.

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            For a second I was like “what month ends on the 29th???”

            And then I realized you were being so specific as to include leap years one day.

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            strange. as far as i understand it we got rid of it because more frequent paychecks can make people subconsciously less likely to put money into savings, sort of how like living next to a supermarket makes some people cook less. it’s not a law, but the unions pushed for it until it became the standard.

            • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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              Hint: if it’s a thing that unions push for, don’t be surprised if it doesn’t exist in the U.S.

              It’s not a coincidence at all, this place absolutely hates empowered workers.

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          I’ve never had a job that paid semimonthly, but almost every job I’ve ever had was bi-weekly.

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            wait, what does semimonthly mean? like, not every month?

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              The English language is scuffed; due to misunderstandings we end up with seemingly opposite words now being used interchangeably to mean the same thing:

              • flammable and inflammable, now both usually mean something can be set alight.
              • biannual and semiannual, both mean twice a year and once every two years - which is even more confusing.

              It’s at the point where if you can’t derive the intended definition from context, you need to ask for clarification! 🤦🏻‍♂️

              In this context, I’m pretty sure the commenter was referring to twice-a-month payment. Here in Australia we would call that fortnightly (once every two weeks), where we end up with a scenario where twice a year we end up with 3 payments (for a total of 26 a year). This tends to be more common for hourly wages roles.

              It’s been a hot minute since I was paid like that, as corporate salaried positions now tend to be monthly - in order to keep things simple for the HR and Finance teams, and honestly helps people like me to learn/maintain better fiscal responsibility and budgeting.

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                “Flammable” was invented specifically to avoid confusion with “inflammable.”

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                biannual and semiannual, both mean twice a year and once every two years - which is even more confusing.

                No! Bad! Do not encourage this! Like biweekly, biannually is every two years.

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                  I’m not encouraging it, it’s actually one of my biggest pet peeves!

                  I can understand why given how rarely they’re used, people get confused between semi-annual and biannual - especially since things happening every ~6 months is a more common occurrence than every ~24.

                  In a world where possible/impossible is simple to understand, why is flammable/inflammable confusing!?

                  Don’t even get me started on “literally” - I want to bang my head against my desk every time I hear it misused.

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                  Biweekly is fortnightly. Every two weeks. I.e. Every other Thursday.

                  Semi-monthly would be twice a month, i.e. the 1st and the 15th.

                  26 biweekly paychecks in a year…24 semimonthly paychecks in a year.

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                  JasonDJ did a good job at explaining the what, the why would be down to cost-cutting. There are fixed costs associated with putting out payroll (beyond man hours required, there are processing fees etc.); so opting for 2/month instead of fortnightly saves you ~10% in fixed costs.

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            I had a job that paid 2x/month 20 years ago. I think the one before that did the same, but… That was a long time ago and I’m not sure if I remember

        • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I get paid every 2 weeks, so slightly more often than twice a month. The twice a year “extra” paychecks go straight into savings because they’re not part of my monthly budget. It’s a government job in the USA.

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            most of europe i assumed, but now that i’ve said it i realise i have no data.

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          My last job paid 1st and 15th . And the company i own now does the same.

          I find budgeting much simpler than with a bi-weekly paycheck.

        • GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world
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          Honestly I get paid once a month but I know some of my friends have 2 paydays a month so it’s still out there in the wild

          • lime!@feddit.nu
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            i have only ever heard of one place that paid biweekly, and that was a completely analog firm run by some religious nut. they stopped doing it in like 2002 and everyone who worked there complained.

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              Conversely, I have never worked anywhere that paid bimonthly and only ever at places that paid biweekly, although a friend of mine did some years ago so… looks like there’s different payment schedules in different places—astounding.

              I will say every single place i’ve worked has not paid enough to live in the modern era so at least that seems to be a consistent through-line.

  • PM_BOOBS_FOR_POEM@lemmynsfw.com
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    Wanna hate this guy even more:

    • He was so old, he couldn’t actually be Target’s CEO and the board had to make an exception to let him continue working there. What was that about DEI?!
    • Back in the COVID years when Target was doing gangbusters, they “adjusted” their bonus expectations and gave everyone who worked their peanuts while having the third best year on paper.
    • Target has been secretly laying off entire teams every month and offshoring, just under the limit to not actually have to announce it publicly.

    Source: a buddy of mine who works there that’s super pissed, but won’t really leave because he makes $200k/yr. He’s riding till it dies.

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    If I had $9 million dollars I would be done. That’s line a six figure annual salary if you put it in the safest of safe investments.

    Rich people suck

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      You need enough capital that you can make enough in capital gains and dividends to live off of in a 4% down year.

      Most people in this country could live off of $2,500,000 if it’s stashed in an index fund. $9,000,000 is more than anyone ever needs.

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        You can get 4% from a high yield savings account. That’s insured. That’s still $360,000 a year (taxed as income). You don’t need to expose yourself to a lot of markets and “down years” . I mean, if the us government collapses and insured accounts are lost we all have bigger problems.

        At 2.5mm you’d still be fine at 4%. Six figure salary for doing jack squat.

        Of course, not everyone can budget and they might burn into their principle. But, like, don’t do that. 🤷

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          Sure but inflation will eat into that over time. The point of the market approach is you can withdraw that amount in real dollars for 30 years after accounting for interest and inflation

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            That’s a good point. I think that’s why most financial advice recommends a mixed portfolio. Index funds that follow the market, but also like bonds and safer things.

            If I luck into seven figures of money, I think I’d hire a professional to give advice. Or at least do a lot of research.

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          Yields are down a bit right now, unless you’re willing to go with a sketchy, not sure if FDIC insured “bank.”

          Currently I’m seeing rates of around 3.5%, or 3.63 APY.

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          You can get 4% from a high yield savings account. That’s insured.

          For now, but you make a solid point. It depends on one’s risk threshold, but I appreciate you adding that in.

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            That’s just break even purchasing power. In USA, invest $1000 at 4% earns $40. Federal and State taxes will take $10. The remainder will be dissolved by 3% inflation. And when you go to spend it, sales tax pushes your ‘yield’ into the negative.

            4% isnt the easy street it appears to be.

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      Thats why you’re not rich. You have to be monomanic to keep wanting more money

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    The only bit of the title I can fully get behind is this:
    Target CEO.
    Target CEO 🎯🎯

    Greedy pricks like this should live in fear.